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Wednesday, October 11, 2023

Virginians who moved to E. Tennessee

repost from When I Was 69, 2014:


 Mary Beavers Clack

Birth: Jan. 12, 1745


Death: Aug. 14, 1840

Wife of Spencer D Clack, mother of Beulah Catherine Clack Rogers. Her son-in-law was Rev. Elijah Rogers.  (My comments on this post are all in Italics)

Family links:
 Spouse:
  Spencer Clack (1746 - 1832)

 Children:
  Rhoda Clack Randles (1776 - 1850)*
  Beulah Catherine Clack Rogers (1778 - 1850)*
(There is no Beulah in the Rogers Bible records, just Catharine. BR note)

*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Forks of the Little Pigeon Cemetery
Riverside Dr,
Sevierville
Sevier County
Tennessee, USA

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as of 2012 this record was added to TN Find a Grave
Beulah Catherine Clack Rogers
Birth: Jun. 23, 1778
Death: Oct. 30, 1850

 is the daughter of Lt Spencer Clack and Mary Beavers Clack. She was the wife of Rev Elijah Rogers.

Family links:
 Parents:
  Spencer Clack (1746 - 1832)
  Mary Beavers Clack (1745 - 1840)

 Spouse:
  Elijah Rogers (1774 - 1841)

 Sibling:
  Rhoda Clack Randles (1776 - 1850)**
  Beulah Catherine Clack Rogers (1778 - 1850)

*Calculated relationship
**Half-sibling
Burial:
Forks of the Little Pigeon Cemetery
Sevierville
Sevier County
Tennessee, USA

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This note is included in my cut/paste.  I do highlight some interesting parts of the information.

 The text contained in this article is from a Web document that was formerly available at the Sevier County Library's Web site. The document is no longer on-line, but it was located in an Internet Archive. The actual source and transcriber were not identified in the document, nor was there any indication of whether the extraction was complete. Some minor, obvious corrections were made to the text because it appeared to have been mechanically converted (OCR).
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Spencer Clack (1746-1832) by Miss Tommie Clack, Abilene, Texas; and J. A. Sharp, Sevierville, Tenn.
Spencer Clack, Revolutionary soldier, settled in Sevier County, Tennessee, in 1788 or 1789. Little is known of his military service except that he was a lieutenant of a Virginia (Henry County) militia company in 1782-83; Captain Tully Choice was company commander. He was born, March 28,1746. His obituary gave his birthplace as Loudoun County, Virginia, but this could not be accurate for Loudoun County was not partitioned from Fairfax County until 1757, and no Clack records, as early as Spencer's birth, were found in either of these counties.
Spencer Clack did, however, live in Loudoun County, and witnessed there, in 1770, the will of Thomas Beavers; also, Loudoun County was probably where he married Mary Beavers about 1766. He sold his lands in Loudoun County in 1777 and moved southward to Henry County, Virginia about 1778, when he purchased land in the latter county. In 1786, when Franklin County, Virginia, was formed from parts of Henry and Bedford Counties, he became one of the first justices of the new county, and in 1787 he sold his Franklin County lands, just before his westward trek to Sevier County, Tennessee.
No conclusive proof of the parentage of Spencer Clack has been offered, although various attempts to do so have been made by descendents and genealogists. It does seem certain, however, that he descended from Rev. James Clack, English-born rector of Ware Parish, Gloucester County, Virginia, from 1679 to 1723.
The Spencer Clack home in Sevier County was located on the right bank of Little Pigeon River, immediately below the junction of the East Fork and West Fork of that river. Here, in 1808, Spencer obtained an occupant grant from Tennessee for 442 acres; most of this land was on the north bank of East Fork directly opposite to the town of Sevierville, or the Forks-of-Little Pigeon, as this frontier settlement was known. The Chandlers and Walkers, Clack descendents, later owned the same place and the old Clack home was located on the same site as the later Chandler-Walker home. Near his home Spencer operated one of Sevierville's first mills, also a cotton gin and wool-carding machine.
Spencer Clack was prominent in the affairs of the Forks-of-Little Pigeon (Sevierville) Baptist Church from the time of its formation in 1789 until his death. For many years he served as church clerk. In addition to his church activities he was interested in education and politics. He was an early trustee of Nancy Academy, Sevier County's first school and gave money for its support. He was one of the five Sevier County delegates to the Knoxville convention of 1796, which drafted and adopted Tennessee's first constitution and he was a signer of that document. He also represented Sevier County in the lower house of the first three Tennessee legislatures, 1796-1802, and in 1801 he served on the legislative committee "to prepare a device and motto" for the Great Seal of Tennessee.
Neither the Spence(r) Clack Bible record nor the Spence(r) Clack will have been found; therefore, the writers will list only those who were unquestionably children of Spencer and Mary Beavers Clack. Perhaps, in this way, the confusion and error of other Clack descendents and genealogists may be avoided.

Good proof exists for the following Clack children: Martha, Rawleigh (Rolly) (b. 1772), Rhoda (b. 1776), Catherine (b. 1778), Frances (b. c1783), Mary (b. 1785) and Malvina.
Martha Clack's marriage to Josiah Rogers occurred in Franklin County, Virginia, in 1786; they apparently came to Sevier County with the Clacks. Rawleigh Clack was married (1) to Mary Randles in 1791, and after her death he was married (2) to Martha Kerr in 1816; this marriage took place in Sevier County. Sixteen children resulted and about 1820 Rawleigh and family moved down the Tennessee River to Rhea County, Tennessee, where he died in 1842. Rhoda Clack married James Randles in 1791; they raised a family of twelve on Boyd's Creek in Sevier County. Randles died in 1816, while on a trip to Virginia for salt, and was buried somewhere in Washington County, Virginia. Catherine Clack was married, in 1794, to Rev. Elijah Rogers, early and well known Baptist minister in East Tennessee; they raised five sons and five daughters at their Sevier County home near the mouth of the Little Pigeon, on the French Broad River. Mary Clack married William Miller; they left Sevier County at an early date and settled in Meigs County, Tennessee, where she died in 1860. Frances Clack was married (1) to Mordecai Gist; after his death she married (2) John Mynatt of Knox County, Tennessee. Malvina Clack married Major Beavers; they left Sevier County for Talladega County, Alabama, soon after the War of 1812.
There were doubtless other Clack children, but the writers do not believe that Spencer Clack, Jr. John Clack and Nancy Clack were children of Spencer and Mary Beavers Clack, as some published accounts claim. However, there is a well established tradition that there was a son, Micajah Clack, who was "killed by lighting." And there may have been a daughter named Rebecca Clack, but again we must rely only upon tradition for proof. Also, in 1789, one Sarah Clack (b. c1773) married William Henderson in the "Forks of Little Pigeon," as shown by bounty land papers in the National Archives; they migrated to St. Louis County, Missouri, about 1840. We believe that this Sarah Clack, heretofore unknown to present generations of Clack descendents, was another daughter of Spencer and Mary.
Spencer Clack's death occurred, July 9, 1832 and he was buried in the old Baptist Cemetery at Sevierville; the original flat limestone rock with the unique carving of Spencer's face and the initials, "S.C.", still marks his grave. Mary Beavers Clack died, August 14, 1840, and was buried by the side of her husband. At the time of his death a contemporary described Spencer Clack as a "pious… worthy Christian, kind and affectionate. . .an excellent neighbor, remarkably even and unruffled in temper."
 
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Note the DAR chapter in Sevierville is called Spencer Clack chapter of DAR (BR)

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One Ancestry Tree gives this:
Mary (DeBeauvilliers)Beavers  Birth 12 Jan 1743 in New Jersey
source: William Doss Beavers Tree 
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 Doss Beavers gives this info...
Mary Beaver's parents:
 father?








  • ID: I01841
  • Name: Thomas BEAVERS 1 2
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 1718 in Ireland 3 4 2 5
  • Death: 8 OCT 1770 in Loudoun Co, VA 6 2 5
  • Will: 28 AUG 1770 Loudon Co., Va 7 4 2 5
  • Note:
    From the NOTES of Gary Watson: Loudoun County, Virginia, Will Book A, page 269, 28 Aug 1770, Thomas Beavers, In the name of God amen the Twenty Eight August one thousand seven hundred and seventy I Thomas Beavers Senior of the County of Loudoun in the Colleny of Virginia Ffarmer Being sick & weak in Body but of perfect mind & memory Thanks be given unto God for the same & calling to mind the mortality of my Body & knowing that it is appointed for all men to Die, Do make and ordain this my last Will & Testament That is to say principally and first of all, I give & Recommend my Sould unto the hands of God who gave it & for my Body I recommend it to the Earth, to be buried in a Christian like & decent manner, at the Discretion of my Executors ... and as Touching such worldly Estate wherewith it hath please God to Bless me in this Life, I give Devise & Dispose of the same in manner and form following, that is to say, in the first place I give & Bequeath to Martha my Dearly Beloved Wife the use of all my lands goods & chattles Except a certain young bay mare, & half Dozen sheep, & the above lands & Tenements goods & chattles & the profits from them arising, to my Beloved wife as above, in order to enable her to suport & Educate our children & discharge my Lawful Debts But, if she should hereafter marry then she must give up the Lands to the Benefit of my children unless my Executors should think it for the Benefit of my children to continue her Longer on them, for Rents to the full value & when my youngest Son Samuel is of full age I do hereby order my Executors to Devide and dispose of my lands in the way & manner hereafter directed & to my Beloved Son William I give one half Doz Sheep as above Excepted, & to my Son Thomas I give the above excepted young bay mare. And to my Son Robert I Bequeath a certain gun & I bequeath to my Sons Joseph & James one hundred & fifty acres of land, to be taken of from the South side of my Lott & the remaining hundred & fifty acres on the North side of my Lott I bequeath to my Sons John and Samuel & if either of the four last mentioned of my Sons should Die before they have a right to possess their part of my lands if they leave no heirs then their part shall be equally divided among such of my sons as do Survive of the four above mentioned & if my wife should marry hereafter all my moveble Estate then in her charge shall be aprais'd & the value of them Reserved for my two youngest Sons till they are of age unless their Circumstances should require all or part of it for their Necessary Suport of which I leave my Executors to Judge and I do hereby ordain constitute and apoint William Beavers Senior & David Carlile my only & sole Executors of this my last Will & testament .. in witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal the day & year above writen. In presence of us Spencer Clack, Willm. Beaty, Andrew Beaty. The Testator before Signing the within will ordered that if his Wife nevery marry his moveable Estate should be hers intirely Except what is within Excepted and if She doo marry eh allows her to have his Sorrel mare over and above what is within mentioned. At a Court held for Loudoun County October the 8th 1770... will proved and ordered recorded.
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    (More stories: with note below this saying,)
    ChesterYM Beavers is not a German name...unless....: The name "Beavers" is definitely not a German name. There is the strong possibility, however, that it was Anglicized upon coming to America. Chances are good, though, that it was originally "Bieber", or "Biebers", the German "ie" being pronounced like the English "e" in "honeybee". (If "Beavers" were German, it would have to be pronounced in three syllables, and would sound nothing like the English pronunciation.) "Beh-ah-ber" would be closer to the German.

    Generation No. 2- Children Of John Beavers Alexander Beavers was born in ~ 1716 in Germany.  No information is available on his spouse or children.THOMAS BEAVERS was born in 1718 in Germany and immigrated to America with his family in 1740.  He married Martha Cargill, daughter of John Cargill, about 1743.  He died 8 October 1770 in Loudoun County, VA.  Their children are:i.                  Robert Beavers, b. 1740 in NJii.                 Thomas Beavers, b. 1742iii.               William John Beavers, b. 1743iv.               Mary Beavers, b. 12 January 1744 in NJv.                 Joseph Beavers, b. 1750vi.               James Beavers, b. 3 March 1753 in VAvii.              John Beavers, b. 1755in VAviii.            Samuel Beavers, b. 18 January 1762 in Fairfax County VARobert Beavers was born in 1726 in Germany and came to America with his family in 1740.  He married Elizabeth Armstrong.  He died in 1774 in Sussex County, New Jersey.  Their children are:1.                Alexander Beavers, Sr., b. 1743, NJ2.                Sarah Beavers, b. 17443.                William Beavers, b. 17464.                Robert Beavers, Sr., b. 17475.                Elizabeth Beavers, b. 17496.                Moses Beavers, b. 1754Joseph Beavers was born in 1728 in Germany and also arrived in America with the family in 1740.  His first Marriage was in 1745 to Mary White, and the second was in 1750 to Ann Clifford.  He died 22 December 1816, in Hunterdon County, NJ. His children are:1.               Sarah Beavers, b. ~ 17462.               George Beavers, b. 17573.               Catherine Beavers, b. 17654.               Elizabeth Beavers, b. 17675.               Martha Beavers, b. 17696.               Rebecca Beavers, b. 17717.               Margaret Beavers, b. 17748.               Mary Clifford Beavers, b. 17519.               Ann Beavers10.           Theodosia Beavers11.           Naomi BeaversWilliam Beavers was born in 1720 and immigrated to America in 1740.  He married Abagail Hampton.  He died 26 July 1788 in Rockingham County, NC.  Their children are:1.                  Abagail Beavers2.                  Elizabeth Beavers3.                  Ann Beavers4.                  Sarah Beavers5.                  Hannah Beavers, b. 17466.                  Mary Beavers, b. 17477.                  William Beavers, b. 17638.                  Rebecca Beavers, b. 1767
     

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    (another convoluted and non-substantiated history)

    Ancestors of Delmer Harrison Marquess


    Generation No. 1

    1. Delmer Harrison Marquess He was the son of 2. Isaac Taylor Marquess and 3. Susan Catherine Teter. He married (1) Valna Belle Ledbetter.
    Generation No. 2

    2. Isaac Taylor Marquess, born February 20, 1847 in Evansville, Preston Co., West Virginia. He was the son of 4. John Marquess and 5. Nancy Evans. He married 3. Susan Catherine Teter.
    3. Susan Catherine Teter

    Children of Isaac Marquess and Susan Teter are:
    i. Oliver Marquess, born January 20, 1875.
    ii. Harrison L. Marquess
    1 iii. Delmer Harrison Marquess, married Valna Belle Ledbetter.
    iv. Warren George Marquess, married Gertrude Spencer.
    v. Gertrude Marquess, married Charels E. McCoy.

    Generation No. 3

    4. John Marquess, born April 24, 1797 in Frederick Co., Va; died January 31, 1857. He was the son of 8. Issac Taylor Marquess and 9. Elizabeth Beavers. He married 5. Nancy Evans.
    5. Nancy Evans, born 1801; died February 02, 1857. She was the daughter of 10. Hugh Evans and 11. Sarah Thomas.

    Child of John Marquess and Nancy Evans is:
    2 i. Isaac Taylor Marquess, born February 20, 1847 in Evansville, Preston Co., West Virginia; married Susan Catherine Teter.

    Generation No. 4

    8. Issac Taylor Marquess, born April 04, 1772 in Frederick Co., Va; died 1861. He was the son of 16. William Marquess and 17. Sarah Taylor. He married 9. Elizabeth Beavers February 15, 1795 in Frederick Co., VA.
    9. Elizabeth Beavers, born January 01, 1774 in Frederick Co., Va; died 1857 in Taylor Co., WV. She was the daughter of 18. William John Beavers and 19. Mary Wyckoff.

    Children of Issac Marquess and Elizabeth Beavers are:
    4 i. John Marquess, born April 24, 1797 in Frederick Co., Va; died January 31, 1857; married Nancy Evans.
    ii. William Marquess, born 1798 in Louisa Co., Va; married Anne Watts; born July 03, 1801 in Reno Dist., Preston Co., Va.
    iii. Samuel Marquess, born July 01, 1800 in Louisa Co., Va; died February 01, 1883 in MO; married Hulda Criss; born March 20, 1818 in MO; died July 11, 1893 in MO.
    iv. Sarah Marquess, born September 30, 1803 in Louisa Co., Va; died 1863 in Parker City, Randolph Co., In; married (1) William Bradley; born Abt. 1799 in Parker City, Randolph Co., In; married (2) Melker Shroyer; born October 25, 1807 in Grafton, Monongalia, VA; died April 26, 1876 in Delaware, In.
    v. Craven Marquess, born August 01, 1805 in Louisa Co., Va; died July 29, 1868; married Sarah Evans; born June 11, 1811; died March 18, 1910.
    vi. Rebecca Marquess, born Abt. 1808 in Louisa Co., Va; married Melker Baker April 28, 1826 in Monongalia Co., Va; born December 29, 1801 in Monongalia Co., Va.
    vii. Elizabeth Marquess, born December 18, 1810 in Evansville, Preston Co., VA; died March 20, 1882; married Calder Haymond January 01, 1831 in Monongalia Co., Va; born March 31, 1807 in Grafton, Monongalia Co., VA; died April 17, 1868.
    viii. Mary Marquess, born February 07, 1813 in Louisa Co., Va or Evansville, Preston Co., VA; died August 09, 1870; married John Haymond October 17, 1835 in Monongalia Co., Va; born May 27, 1814 in Monongahela Co., Va; died December 19, 1881.
    ix. James Marquess, born November 06, 1818 in Louisa Co., Va; died July 08, 1880; married (1) Amanda Fox; born Abt. 1822; married (2) Anastacia Baker; born 1818; died September 22, 1857.

    10. Hugh Evans, born September 01, 1770; died Abt. 1873. He married 11. Sarah Thomas.
    11. Sarah Thomas, born Abt. 1776; died May 22, 1859.

    Child of Hugh Evans and Sarah Thomas is:
    5 i. Nancy Evans, born 1801; died February 02, 1857; married John Marquess.

    Generation No. 5

    16. William Marquess, born Bet. 1735 - 1740 in Calvert Co., MD; died April 05, 1788. He was the son of 32. John Marquess and 33. Margaret Kidd. He married 17. Sarah Taylor August 07, 1764 in Calvert Co., MD.
    17. Sarah Taylor, born 1741 in Frederick Co., VA; died 1828. She was the daughter of 34. Isaac Taylor.

    Children of William Marquess and Sarah Taylor are:
    i. Keziah Marquess, born 1764 in Frederick Co., Va; married Electus Hayes.
    ii. James Marquess, born 1765 in Frederick Co., VA; died 1828 in Hardy Co., VA; married Rebecca Smith September 06, 1787 in Frederick Co., VA.
    iii. William Kidd Marquess, born Bet. 1765 - 1770 in Frederick Co., Va; died in Delphi?, In; married Jane Trussel; born Abt. 1781 in Loudoun Co., Va; died in Dayton, Oh.
    8 iv. Issac Taylor Marquess, born April 04, 1772 in Frederick Co., Va; died 1861; married Elizabeth Beavers February 15, 1795 in Frederick Co., VA.
    v. Zacharia Marquess, born 1774 in Frederick Co., Va.
    vi. Wilson Marquess, born 1775 in Calvert, Maryland.
    vii. Frances "Fanny" Marquess, born Abt. 1780 in Loudin (Clark) Co VA; died Abt. 1850 in Hardy Co., VA; married Solomon H. Groves May 09, 1798 in Winchester, Frederick Co., Virginia; born Abt. 1778; died Abt. 1823.

    18. William John Beavers, born Bet. 1739 - 1743; died 1781 in South Caroline. He was the son of 36. Thomas Beavers and 37. Martha Cargil. He married 19. Mary Wyckoff 1763 in New Jersey.
    19. Mary Wyckoff

    Children of William Beavers and Mary Wyckoff are:
    i. Samuel Beavers
    ii. Mary Beavers
    iii. John Beavers, born 1771.
    iv. Robert Beavers, born January 24, 1772.
    9 v. Elizabeth Beavers, born January 01, 1774 in Frederick Co., Va; died 1857 in Taylor Co., WV; married Issac Taylor Marquess February 15, 1795 in Frederick Co., VA.
    vi. Moses Beavers, born 1777 in Fairfax Co., VA; died 1860 in Preston Co., WV; married Hannah Holbert November 17, 1803 in Fredrick Co., VA.

    Generation No. 6

    32. John Marquess, born 1705 in Ireland; died 1750 in Calvert Co., MD. He was the son of 64. Marquis Marquess Marquiss Marcus Mark Markee. He married 33. Margaret Kidd 1735 in Calvert Co., Md.
    33. Margaret Kidd, born 1718 in Calvert Co., MD; died 1774 in Calvert Co., MD. She was the daughter of 66. William Kidd and 67. Ann Gideon.

    Children of John Marquess and Margaret Kidd are:
    i. James Marquess, born Abt. 1735.
    ii. John Marquess, born Abt. 1737 in Calvert, Maryland; married Corinne Unknown.
    16 iii. William Marquess, born Bet. 1735 - 1740 in Calvert Co., MD; died April 05, 1788; married (1) Sarah Schmidt; married (2) Sarah Taylor August 07, 1764 in Calvert Co., MD.
    iv. Kidd William Marquess, born Abt. 1741; died in Delphi, Indiana; married Elanor Magruder; born 1745 in Montgomery County, Maryland; died April 25, 1826 in Shelby Co., KY.
    v. Ann Marquess, born Abt. 1743; married (1) Unk. Turner; married (2) Unknown Sibley January; married (3) Garrett Van Meter April 03, 1757.
    vi. Sarah Marquess, born 1745; married Unk. Stevens.

    34. Isaac Taylor

    Child of Isaac Taylor is:
    17 i. Sarah Taylor, born 1741 in Frederick Co., VA; died 1828; married (1) John Sunderland Abt. 1758; married (2) William Marquess August 07, 1764 in Calvert Co., MD.

    36. Thomas Beavers, born 1718 in Germany; died 1770 in Loundon Co., VA. He was the son of 72. John Beavers. He married 37. Martha Cargil.
    37. Martha Cargil

    Children of Thomas Beavers and Martha Cargil are:
    18 i. William John Beavers, born Bet. 1739 - 1743; died 1781 in South Caroline; married Mary Wyckoff 1763 in New Jersey.
    ii. Robert Beavers, born 1740.
    iii. Thomas Beavers, born 1742.
    iv. Mary Beavers, born January 12, 1743/44.
    v. Joseph Beavers, born 1750.
    vi. John Beavers, born 1755.
    vii. Samuel Beavers, born January 18, 1762.
    viii. James Beavers, born March 03, 1753.

    Generation No. 7

    64. Marquis Marquess Marquiss Marcus Mark Markee

    Child of Marquis Marquess Marquiss Marcus Mark Markee is:
    32 i. John Marquess, born 1705 in Ireland; died 1750 in Calvert Co., MD; married Margaret Kidd 1735 in Calvert Co., Md.

    66. William Kidd He married 67. Ann Gideon.
    67. Ann Gideon

    Child of William Kidd and Ann Gideon is:
    33 i. Margaret Kidd, born 1718 in Calvert Co., MD; died 1774 in Calvert Co., MD; married (1) Unknown Smith; married (2) John Marquess 1735 in Calvert Co., Md.

    72. John Beavers, born 1695 in Germany.

    Children of John Beavers are:
    i. Alexander Beavers
    ii. Elizabeth Beavers
    36 iii. Thomas Beavers, born 1718 in Germany; died 1770 in Loundon Co., VA; married Martha Cargil.
    iv. William Beavers, born 1720; married Abigail Hampton.
    v. Robert Beavers, born 1726; died November 09, 1774 in Sussex Co., NJ; married Elizabeth Armstrong 1742 in NJ.
    vi. Joseph Beavers, born 1728; married (1) Mary White Bef. 1750; married (2) Ann Clifford 1750.
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    http:SPHAR
    has a father of James Beaver for Mary Beaver
    and no other info

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    another tree (Wilson Family Tree gives her father as:
    Thomas Beavers Birth 1718 in Bethlehem, Hunterdon, New Jersey, United States 
      Death 8 Oct 1770 in Loudoun, Virginia, United States

    and her mother as:

    Martha Cargil Birth 1715 in New Jersey, United States 

    Death 8 Oct 1770 in Loudoun, Virginia, United States

    with Martha Cargil's parents as:

    John Cargile Birth 1721 in Loudoun, Virginia, United States Death 8 Oct 1780 in Loudoun, Virginia, United Statesa
    and

    Catherine Reno Birth 1722 in Stafford, Stafford, Virginia, United States Death 1774 in Virginia, United States  (why would their daughter be born in NJ then?)
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    there are 10 more trees, and I'm not into climbing  them all, so will add the Studer family info, since it gives Thomas's fam, and Mary's siblings

    It's so funny that the obvious French name isn't even mentioned on any of these trees!

    ahhh ancestry, you are a fickle mistress!`

    next tree we see
    :STUDER family tree
     we find siblings for Mary and she's born in VA, and has Thomas and Mary Cargil as parents...and lots more of his tree!
    Mary DeBeauvilliers (Beavers)
    Birth 12 Jan 1745 in Loudon, Virginia, USA
    Death 14 Aug 1840 in Sevierville, Sevier, Tennessee, USA
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    Aunt Alice Rogers Ross

    Repost from When I Was 69, 2014"

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    Great great Aunt Alice L. Rogers Ross was born on this day in 1853...and she lived until 1925.


    My grandfather's aunt, Alice Luella Rogers married John Elmore Ross, who was Sophia Elmore Ross' grandson (and born 2 years before she died.)

    General John Elmore (I posted about him HERE) was a soldier in the American Revolution.  When you notice how many people named a son George Washington ________(insert their last name here) you can see that the leaders of that revolution were pretty popular.  So my father, George Elmore Rogers, and his father also carried the middle name of Elmore, though they were not descendents of General John Elmore, the hero.  (And obviously they were also named George, but that was also the name of several English kings, so I don't know who it originally referred to!)

    Gen. Elmore's third child, Sophia Saxon Elmore, married George W. Ross (she was 15, he age 31 and probably a doctor).  They lived in Laurens, South Carolina, and then Mississippi.  Their grandson, John Elmore Ross, married my great great aunt Alice Luella Rogers, which is how I have any relationship to the Elmores.

    I had a comment posted on my site about General Elmore just the other morning, which I'm including here, because this is the fun I've found in doing this genealogy...we're cousins somehow, having the same great great... grandparents waaaaay back when.

    Patricia Elmore said...
    I am the great, great, great granddaughter of John Archer Elmore. I found your account of how his name entered into your family quite interesting. My lineage to JA Elmore is this: John Archer Elmore -> Henry Marshall Elmore -> William Augustus Elmore -> John Rugely Elmore -> William Augustus Elmore -> Patricia Elmore (me). Thanks for posting this.

    Incidentally, Alice Luella Rogers Ross' father was named, (you guessed it,) George Washington Rogers (1820-1864.) 

    I first posted a birthday wish to Great Aunt Alice last year, which you might read HERE. And I've gone back and corrected my errors where I used to think my grandfather and his sister lived with the Ross's because the Ross' became their guardians upon the children's father's death.  My update is because I have since found that their widowed mother was still alive for many years and included her children in her household on some census data.  The census doesn't lie, much.

    About Great Aunt Alice's death...another conundrum from Ancestry.com.  Here's her death certificate:

    It says that she was widowed as of June 15, 1925, dying of cirrhosis of the liver, and that she had been under the doctors care since May 26.  Also she was buried on the 16th of June in Mexia, Texas.

    When I look to see her husband's date of death on Ancestry, I find John Elmore Ross died on June 15, 1925, in Galveston, Texas.  There's no verifying data attached.  I'm sorry, I don't want to spend any more time figuring out how something weird has happened, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't in my Aunt and Uncle's lives...but on the record keeping of Ancestry.

    If you know the facts, and have some documentation, please send them my way.  Thanks!


    Oh Susanna!

    repost from When I Was 69, Nov 29, 2013:


     Susanna Claiborne, what a melodic name.  I just discovered an alternate spelling Clairborne, had kept me from finding her parents on Ancestry.  Ha.

    She was a grandmother of mine, a few generations removed.

    I invite you to walk into her life.  None of the "intellectual way" of looking at her dates and places.
    Let's just imagine when she lived, raised her family, and made her mark on lives to come (including mine).

    She lived in the18th Century in rural Virginia.  She was probably a farmer's wife, since Surry and Sussex County, VA have historically been farm country.  She was born Nov. 29, 1751.  She married in Sussex County, but I don't think she had to move far.  The new county was just created out of Surry County about the time Susanna was 3 years old. 

    Interesting reading HERE about Sussex history.  I'll let you go see it if you're interested. 

    (1) Susanna Claiborne married  Frederick Jones (1756-1791) when she was 22 years old.

    Since she died in 1810 in Dinwiddie County, (the county to the west of Sussex), I have that link HERE.

    She had 8 children, and the one that became my ancestor was...(generation #2) Sarah Jones, born also in Sussex County, VA on 2 Feb 1780, who died 4 Aprl 1847 in Union Parish, Louisiana.  That's not only a long way from Virginia, there were Alabama connections as well...and Georgia, then finally Texas!

    Sarah Jones (2) married Champion Travis Traylor, Sr. (2) who had been born in Dinwiddie County, VA.  They married in Alabama, and he died 4 Apr 1832 in Perry Alabama.

     Their daughter, (3) Nancy Jones Traylor Powell was born 16 May 1804 in Oglethorpe County, GA.  She died 27 June, 1881 in Old Waverly, Walker County, Texas.

    So when following my maternal genealogy, it's really interesting to see how these women traveled all across the south.  In the latter 18th Century and then into the 19th Century, you can imagine what life must have been like.  I always like to do that...think of a household full of children, servants perhaps, slaves if there was farming in the south, and husbands, brothers, uncles and sons working to keep everything running smoothly.  Of course the household was run by the oldest wife...which changed as households aged.  By the time each of these women had stopped bearing children, they were often in their 40's.  Only a few of them lived to go through menopause...it was a hard life not only with frequent childbirth, but the rigors of moving from one frontier to another.  These were true pioneers.

    Nancy Jones Traylor Powell (3) married James Moore Powell,(3) and his dates are interesting because apparently he died on his birthday, 27 Feb. born in 1791, in Bertie County, NC, died same date in 1886 in Waverly, Walker County, TX.

    Still a long way from my roots, which on this tree are Rogers.  My father's father is where we're going.  George Elmore Rogers, Sr. born in Texas in 1877 in Willis, TX.

    Where oh where is the connection  though?
     Their daughter, Mary Ann Elizabeth Powell (5) married none other than Col. Richard Bass (5).  OK, where and when were her dates?  (I've struggled, and we're still following the data rather than the actual lives, aren't we?)  Born 21 Feb, 1825 in Perry AL, and died 12 Oct 1871 in Old Waverly, TX.

    And finally, their daughter, Elizabeth "Bettie" Bass, (6) was born either in Feb or March 1860 in Old Waverly, San Jacinto County, TX, and died 17 July 1924 in Galveston, TX.

    She was married to...
    William Sandford Rogers, (6) born 9 Feb 1850 in Huntsville, Walker County, TX, who died in the same town 29 May 1879.


    And they were my grandfather's parents. George Rogers Sr. would be generation (7), my father would be (8) and I'm (9) generations removed from Oh Susanna!

    And a post script is in order here.  The Claibornes had an old name from Europe, and the name referred to living near clay deposits on a stream.  As you may already know, I am a potter.  So clay is important to me in both ways, my ancestors and my avocation.








    A special Sepia Saturday indeed

     

    a repost from:


    Thursday, January 3, 2013 repost from 10/24/13

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    Eugenia Booth Miller, 69 years before me

    Since there are more things known about the past than the future, let's consider my ancestors relative to 69 years, (the magic number of my age that this blog is memorializing.)

    That's why time traveler stories touch only briefly on a future, and a lot of past times.  So if I look back to an ancestor that would have been 69 in 1942 (the year I was born) ...they would have been born in 1873.  Mmm, I dare say I can look on the good old family tree and find someone.  It doesn't matter if they didn't actually live to 69, because it's the magical birthday I'm tracking this time.  (In the future I'll check and see how many ancestors did make it to the year of their 69th birthday)



    Oh my goodness...the woman I was named after was born Jan 30, 1873.  She was my great-grandmom, Eugenia Almetta (Almeda) Booth Miller, and she died Jan 1, 1936. She raised my mom and my grandmom, and had married Charles Mueller (Miller) October 28,1896, an immigrant from Germany.  They had 4 daughters, including my grandmother, Mozelle Booth Miller.  I was named Barbara Booth, rather than Eugenia.

    I'm going to share this great news (well, only if you put a parameter on history that says, look at it this way...) on Sepia Saturday this week.  See what other folks are sharing here.
    http://sepiasaturday.blogspot.com/2013/01/sepia-saturday-158-5-january-2013.html


    14 comments:

    tony said...
    Eugenia looks the cameraman Squarely & Honestly in Eye.A fine looking woman .
    Helen Bauch McHargue said...
    Eugenia is one of those names that should be resurrected! I'll be looking for the story about how you were named Barbara instead.
    Wendy said...
    I like the concept of finding ancestors who were (or would have been) 69 when you were born. I might have to apply this idea to my own blog. Thanks for the inspiration!
    Alan Burnett said...
    It is a fascinating game you play with family trees, dates and ages. You make me want to carry out the experiment myself. Now who was born in 1884?
    Bob Scotney said...
    I think you have started a hare running with this post. I shall have to check back on the family tree I have put together to see what I can find. There will not be an Eugenia that's for sure.
    Karen S. said...
    Oh I agree with Alan, although we all know that wasn't his birth year! hahaha! But this was such a cool idea, and very interesting, so fun that you thought of it.
    Kristin said...
    You know I will now have to go find someone who was or would have been 66 when I was born in 1946. Very interesting post.
    Postcardy said...
    I think you need a lot of ancestors to play this game, unless you are really lucky.
    Mike Brubaker said...
    An interesting idea to combine numerology with genealogy. I like the name Eugenia and it deserves to come back. It may be only a coincidence but one of the most popular women of that name was Empress Eugenia, the wife of Napoleon III who was Emperor of France from 1853 to 1871. She lived to 1920, aged 94, but her husband died on 9 January 1873, a curious coincidence with your great grandmother's birth.
    ScotSue said...
    I think you have started something here. Like other bloggers, the idea of identifying coincidences in birth years appeals to me. I have only come across one so far which delighted me - my own daughter was born January 15th - 114 years to the day after my great grandmother.
    B. Rogers, Alchemy of Clay said...
    It has been really fun to read the comments, especially to hear all the ideas that have been generated from my little one of looking for the 69th year ancestors. Will keep looking for more fun here!
    Tattered and Lost said...
    Interesting concept. Sadly I only look back at the relatives that died the year I was born. Were they sad to have missed out on my birth? I'm sad I never got to meet each of them.
    Oregon Gifts of Comfort and Joy said...
    She looks like a smart, wise, kind and no-nonsense kind of a woman. Like a teacher or a librarian.

    Thanks for sharing her with us,

    Kathy M.
    Kathy said...
    Yes - a fun idea to explore! When I saw 69, it resonated with me because I am in one of those (dreaded?) "9" years myself.
    NOTES FROM OCTOBER 26, 2013
    Alan has also asked if we'd like to have this anniversary post included in a book.  I'm all for that!  What fun to share with folks from all over the globe.  Here I sit in North Carolina, writing about my ancestors in Texas, Virginia, Tennessee, New York, Massachusetts ,Louisiana, Connecticut etc. and most of them have their ancestors in Western Europe...so I love being a melting pot child...and now learning about folks everywhere.

    NOTE FROM OC 11, 2023 repost to Three Family Trees to gather all genealogical blogs there.
    The Sepia Saturday book, which I preordered to give my 3 sons, left out all the great quotes after my blog. Oh well.

    Nansemond early notes

    Originally published in When I Was 69 Aug 11, 2013, No Blue Blood 


    Genealogists get fired up about...people who published documents which invented relationships. If you can't trust genealogy, who can you trust?


    I of course have not read the last 12 years of the conversation which started in 1999 about the Bass families.  There were some emails published under one of these person's listings, and I found it very interesting.

    Apparently a Mr. Bell was paid to connect a family with some blue bloods.  Others have said to question the book "Bass Families of the South", by Albert Bell.

    "I think that all this controversy in the Bass Genforum is healthy and will help more people to understand that Bell's book is flawed." Mike Crandall, Aug 11, 1999

     From: FredBright

     To: Mike and Ruthie Crandall

    Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 

    Subject: Bell's Book

    Mike-      I enjoyed your email which was forwarded to me by War Chief, Earl Bass. You are correct. There are many incorrect entries in Dr. Bell's book. People can say what they want, but the truth is, he was trying very hard to establish a Huguenot connection for a particular group of people, with Bass surnames.

    The interesting thing is that this led to writing to the Native American Tribe of Virginia of which I'd never heard, the Nansemond Nation, which may be my ancestors.

    What a headache.  These people have dates and source data attached to them, so there are families there, which are true relationships.  I need to slowly go through and justify the ones that belong to the Bass family which was my grandfather's mother's family.

    Earlier information triggered another person to make a newsletter, which unfortunately doesn't have much published. http://www.tbass.com/basse.htm

    It was a good idea however and there's a link to http://www.tbass.com/photopage/

    The Nansemond Tribe holds its POW-WOW each Fall in the Chesapeake/Suffolk VA area near where they lived when the Europeans came in the late 1500's. They are a part of the Powhatan Chiefdom which included 32 Algonkian-speaking tribes in the tide water area of Virginia. The European part of my family, John Bass/Basse married into the tribe in 1638. His was one of two Christianized marriages between European and American Indians according to Helen C. Rountree in The Powhatan Indians of Virginia through Four Centuries. Their culture is recorded in The Powhatan Indians of Virginia: their traditional culture by the Ms. Helen C. Rountree. I have attended the POW-WOW each Fall for the past three years. I met former Chief Earl "Running Deer" Bass, and present Chief Barry "Big Buck" Bass at their homes at the northern end of Dismal Swamp in the summer of 1993. Chief Barry Bass, his wife Betty, and The Nansemond Association are most gracious host for the POW-WOW each year. I have been to a lot of POW-WOWs over the years, but I must admit that I get much more pleasure out of attending the POW-WOW of my peoples. AHO MITAKA OYSIN, Grandfather I give thanks for the winds which have come an blown the fog away so that I could know who I am. AHO...  {Updated 01/01/13} 

     

    This sign announces the gathering of people for the Nansemond Tribal Pow-Wow which is held north of Suffolk VA each year in Late Summer or Early Fall. Chief Barry "Big Buck" Bass greets all attendees graciously.

    Though it was updated 2013 in January, tbass hasn't posted any pictures since the 2000 pow wow.  But the good thing is, I don't live very far from Virginia. 

     

     


    Ntes on Marion Phillips and George Granger

    repost from When I Was 69, 8/4/13 


     Finding Uncle Marion:


    The data on my site didn't have his death date or place.
    I had his birth date and the state of Georgia, but no details.

    Uncle Marion had lots of background material.  He was the elder brother of my grandmother's grandfather, William Phillips, who died as a Confederate soldier.  (I don't know why Marion Phillips didn't fight in that conflict).  Uncle Marion was old enough that when his mother remarried to Samuel Gainer, he might not have continued to be part of the household.  That is unknown.  But he did stay close to them as they moved into Texas.

    I also was looking for details of George Granger's life.  The Grangers were  from Newburyport, MA.  One transcriber had given his mother's maiden name some real twists, which used to be why people weren't connected up with their real life events.  Lucy Pulsifer was changed into Lucy Ressiler.  It's easy for me to read her correct name in the handwritten document.  But if you've never heard of the Pulsifers who surveyed the land originally for Beaumont Texas, I guess anything is possible.  They donated land for the city center, and probably some of their descendents received some profits somehow.  Not my family, however.  I think my grandfather and grandmother went from Houston to Beaumont during some property settlement, but came home empty handed. In case you don't know, Beaumont is the site of oil.

    Anyway, Marion Phillips never married. And since he was my grandmother's great uncle, I didn't spent much time looking for information on him.  It's hard enough to find out who's parents are whose...and when they lived, and did they marry the same person according to the various census records they appeared in.  Seriously, I'm in the midst of trying to get George Granger's wife (or wives) birthday straightened out.

    But, (you know that was coming, didn't you) Uncle Marion was the recipient of many letters, as well as wrote many, between himself and his sisters and parents and brothers and their children from around the Civil War till afterward.  Uncle George, not so much.

    The Phillips/Gainer family moved to Texas, sometime around the beginning of the Civil War.   Uncle Marion lived in Galveston as well as Tyler Texas, and I finally found his grave in Woodville, Texas.

    I actually have a picture of the grave marker, so now I know when he died, and where.

    I've transcribed many of the Uncle Marion letters that were part of the Rogers family genealogy records.  I'm adding them to his site on Ancestry.com. 

    And when I get a minute (more like an hour) I'll tell you more details about the letters, the family, and poor Uncle George Granger.  (The Granger family raised my grandmother's mother and sister when Mary Granger Phillips and her husband William died early.  Remember William was Marion Phillips' brother. And Mary was George Granger's sister.)

    OK, confusing, I know, and I look at the family tree all the time.

    I'll try to be more coherent next time.






    What is life? It is the flash of a firefly in the night. It is the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and loses itself in the Sunset - Crowfoot, a leader of the Blackfoot nation

    Albert "Bud" James Webb, July 30, 1891

    July 30, 2013 posted to When I Was 69...


    Happy birthday to my grandfather who lived only 28 years on this earth.  This is the 122nd anniversary of his birth.


    From my mother's photo album, showing a couple of portrait photos that may have been inside lockets.  She had been only 2 when he died.

    In the 1900 census of Goliad, Texas, he was 8 years old, living with parents Annie E. (age 37) and Larry F. Webb (age 42), who had been married for 22 years.  Others in the household included a 16 year old sister, Maggie, a 13 year old brother, Thomas, and an 11 year old sister Clara.  The census said his father had been born in Texas, and his father's father was from Maryland and his mother from Ohio.  His mother, Annie E. Williams had been born in Missouri, and her father was born in Iowa and her mother in Ohio.  Larry F. Webb has as his occupation " head" of ( inscription is slightly hard to read) "General Merch" which I think would be a general store. There was also a "lodger" in the home, 25 year old Katy Ayers, whose occupation was house servant.

    I always look at the original census data, because otherwise I would have missed seeing the next household listed was headed by James E. Webb, age 21, living with his brother, John L. Webb, age 20.  Since their parents were born in the same places as Annie and Larry Webb, I believe these were elder brothers of Albert.  James was a bookkeeper at the time, and John as salesman.  They were born in DeWitt County, Weesatche, Texas. 

    Bud Webb at 18 (in 1910) was working in a real estate office in San Antonio.  His father owned and operated a "confectionery."  The family still had a servant who lived with them.  Incidentally, my records show Bud having been born in "Huisache, Texas" which is a more Spanish way to spell Weesatche.  

    When something happened in 1894, this photo of Bud's father's Store in Weesatche commemorates it with  the friends and employees.  Larry F. Webb himself outlived his son by many years, dying in 1921. So perhaps this was when the family moved to San Antonio.



    The San Antonio City Directory in 1910 listed the Webbs who lived at the same address, 130 Lewis, and the first alphabetically was Albert (Bud).  He was a solicitor for Conness Realty.  The other Webbs were his sister, Miss Clara Webb, and his parents Leary F. and Anna Webb (he running the Confectionery on San Pedro Av. SW)

    Albert and my grandmother, Mozelle Miller, married Aug 7, 1915, in San Antonio.  He was 24, and she was a month shy of her 17th birthday.

    Albert's draft card for World War I, dated June 15, 1917, lists his birthday but a year younger in 1892. And maybe the typist had some problems, because he's listed as Albert Joe not James.   He is living now at 95 Lewis St. and proclaims he has a wife and child.  The registration just says he's "tall" and medium build, blue eyes, light colored hair, slightly bald. He just signed the card A. J. Webb.  He never went to the war.

    So what killed him?  Perhaps the Influenza epidemic.  But my mother's story as I grew up, was that a bad extension cord on Christmas lights electrocuted him.  What's wrong with this picture?  He died Sept. 15, 1919, not in December.  Maybe there was a bad electrical cord, and my mother was reminded of it when we strung lights at Christmas, and I've blended the time she shared about it into my own rendition.  Early electric wiring was certainly not that good.  Whatever took this young man's life, my mother had to be told about him by her mother and her aunts and grandmother.  I don't think the Webbs had much contact with her throughout her life.

    I also remember her saying that her grandmother, Annie Elizabeth Williams Webb, had been an heiress to the Woolworth fortune.  And there was some connection with the Little Church Around the Corner in New York City.  My sister may have found out more about these stories, and I hope to hear what they were sometime, because they don't seem evident on Ancestry!

    For many years my genealogy records gave Joe as his middle name, but his death certificate says Albert James Webb.  That's good enough for me.

    Here's a picture of his brother, another salesman (according to his 1938 death certificate), John Leroy Webb.  (Apparently Larry was spelled that way, or Leary by these Webb gentlemen.)






    "He Is Not Dead, He Is Just Away," Inscription on grave marker.
    Marker is in Mission Burial Park SouthSan AntonioBexar CountyTexas, USAPlot: Block 2, Masonic Garden
     I'd like to go to San Antonio sometime and visit this cemetery where so many of my ancestors have their final resting place.