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Wednesday, October 31, 2018

Other Bower ancestors...


What about Joan Bridmore Bower?

Just because she was married to one of the John Bowers, there are a ton of hints about her...maybe some will be about the Bridmore family. All the hints available (including other trees) didn't have any parents listed. And the majority of them were about people in different centuries.  I am getting so tired of this.

She was a 12th great grandmother.

BIRTH 1451  Tisbury, Wiltshire, England

DEATH ABT 1588  Mere, Wiltshire, England


She and her husband John Bower Jr. (1478-1498) had one son, Robert Bower (1493-1517).  That was enough to keep my line going!

But John Jr.'s mother was interesting, and I don't think we chased her line back yet.

Dame Edith Elizabeth Gresley (Bower)


BIRTH 1462  Drakelow, Derbyshire, England

DEATH 1523  Mere, Wiltshire, England


Some ancestor trees say she was born in Colton, Staffordshire.  She married in 1477 to John Bower Sr. and a year later gave birth to John Jr. (my suffixes to names to try to keep them straight). John Sr., her husband died the next year.

She remarried Sir John Gifford, who's not in my line. She had probably had a daughter by him 15 years prior to the marriage.  At least that's what the tree says.    There's also another daughter she may have had at age 13, and there's no marriage date with Sir John Montgomery.

She died in 1523, after her son John Bower Jr. had died in 1498.

Her father was:

Sir Thomas de Gresley Baron of Chartley-Sheriff of Staffordshire


BIRTH 1435  Derby, Derbyshire, England

DEATH 26 APR 1502  Colton, Staffordshire, England


his wife was

Lady Anne Ferrers, Lady of Tamworth Castle, Baroness Gresley of Chartley 

BIRTH NOV 1445  Tamworth Castle, Tamworth, Staffordshire, England

DEATH 9 JAN 1499  Colton Hall, Tamworth, Staffordshire, England


I'll go further into her lineage, but one footnote said her father's line goes back to Edward I.  This isn't the first time I've found Burke's to say one of my ancestors derived from royalty.


Tuesday, October 30, 2018

More Weston Rugeley ancestors

Lady Margaret Mitford Weston (1425-1475) was the child of John De Mitford (April 8, 1402- May 6, 1457.) He was born in Mitford, Northumberland, England, and died in Chillingham, Northumberland, England.
Coat of Arms attached to Mitford family on Ancestry.

 Her mother was Constance Ogle of Northumberland (Apri 18, 1402-Oct 4, 1460)  She was born in Ogle Castle, Northumberland, England, and died in Kirkby, Northumberland (or perhaps in Chillingham, Northumberland.)

Ogle Coat of Arms

Their marriage is cited in a lot of histories of the period, though it has different dates ascribed to it; 1421, 1424, and 1427 are all listed in various publications.  Her children did not include a John Weston...honestly I'm rolling my eyes...she was a Mitford.  So John Mitford was definitely her son.  I've had to remove John Weston from her family, and delete the duplicate Bernard Mitford.  But Margaret was definitely there (to marry into the Weston family.)

Her parents were (my15th great grandparents):

Sir Robert Ogle

BIRTH 21 MAY 1379  Ogle Castle, Northumberland, England (or 1370 or 1372)

DEATH 12 AUG 1435  Bothal, Northumberland


and

Maude de Grey Ogle

BIRTH 1382  Wark, Northumberland, England

DEATH 21 AUG 1451  Bothal Redesdale, Northumberland


These15th grandparents married in 1399. They are buried in Hexham, Northumberland, England.


And Sir Robert's father was  

Robert Ogle I


BIRTH 1351  Whalton, Northumberland Unitary Authority, Northumberland, England

DEATH 31 OCTOBER 1410  Hexham, Northumberland Unitary Authority, Northumberland,


He is my 16th great grandfather.  His wife is unknown.

Maude's mother was 

Jane De Mowbray Grey

BIRTH 1360  England

DEATH England


Her father was

Sir Thomas Grey of Hetton


BIRTH Heton (Northumberland) England

DEATH 26 NOVEMBER 1400


And thus I have 3 of the 16th great grandparents names, some of their dates, and some of their places.  No more on this line until I go back to more modern times and start tracing backwards again!


Monday, October 29, 2018

Further back for the Weston family

More on the Weston family...going back when dates seemed pretty skeptical (at least to my mind.)

The other day I stopped after saying this:
Agnes Weston Bowers' father was Sir. John Weston of Rugeley II, (1458-1527). He was born in Ockham, Surry, England, died in Rugeley.  I'm listing his birthplace as Oakham Surrey, but it could have been Litchfield, Staffordshire, or Mayfield Sussex.  Those all are listed as his birthplace, sometime around 1457-58.

Her mother was Lady Alice Edshaw Weston, born 1465 in Petworth, Sussex, England, and died about 1547, location unknown. I don't have any parents listed for Lady Alice Edshaw Weston, who was born either in 1456 or 1465.  Neither was substantiated, but it's more likely the later date so she could have had the youngest of her 9 children.

So now we can go to Sir John Weston's father, Sir John Weston I (1418- June 14, 1483.)  His wife was Lady Margaret Mitford Weston, (1425-Jan 31, 1475). In my humble opinion, the dates of their deaths are from a modern person adding a day and month.  Unless they had legal documents saying these dates, I find many hints over on Ancestry have incredibly modern sources...they should not even come up as hints for 15th century ancestors.  It takes a long while to go through them, even when the publication says it starts in 1578 and later.  These folks weren't alive then, and I'm wishing there was a way to stop these hints.

Anyway, there also were about 4-5 marriage dates given for the Sir John Weston family.  I just picked the earliest when they would have been teens or early twenties.  None of them had documentation.

But there were also photos used for their sites on Ancestry, of a sculptural gravemarker. The person who I copied it from had also used an inaccurate John Weston who died in 1700 from Surey England as one of his saved documents for a 15th century John...so I'm pretty skeptical. I can't read what this marker says, but will add it as well to my site, and hope to find someone who knows that these are the people who were my ancestors. John and Margaret were my 13th great grandparents.

And there are even more parents to consider.

Lady Margaret's father was Sir John of Northumberland, Sheriff de Mitford, (April 8, 1402- May 6, 1457), born in Mitford, Northumberland, Eng, and died in Chillingham, Northumberland, Eng.
His wife was Constance Ogle of Northumberland, England, (1402-1470)  She was born in Ogle castle, of Northumberland. They married in Mitford, also in Northumberland. 

More on her family soon.



Sunday, October 28, 2018

10th great grandmother Agnes Weston Bowers

Is there any more information about Agnes Weston Bowers? She may have been born around 1490 in Rugeley, Staffordshire, England. She's an 11th great grandmother. Her first son was born in 1509. Second son, my grandfather times 10 greats, was born in 1513, the same year there is a record of her marriage to Robert Bower (1493-1516).  She died in 1535 in Staffordshire. No other children are mentioned on Ancestry.

Not living in England, I had to look up Rugeley.  There are several other spellings.
 The town, historically known as Rudgeley or Ridgeley, is listed in the Domesday Book. This name is thought to be derived from 'Ridge lee', or 'the hill over the field'. In the mediaevalperiod, it thrived on iron workings and was also a site of glass manufacturing. 
Rugeley is known as an historic market town, which has more recently (19th century) been an industrial town with coal mining, canals, railroads, and then when the mines closed, a period of depression.  An Amazon business has apparently rejuvenated the town's employment.  There have also been 2 years of Quidditch Tournaments held there.  (One must be familiar with J. K. Rowling's works on Harry Potter to understand that.
For the last two years, in 2016 and 2017, the British Quidditch Cup has been held at Rugeley Leisure Centre.  Source: Wikipedia
Agnes Weston Bowers' father was Sir. John Weston of Rugeley II, (1458-1527). He was born in Ockham, Surry, England, died in Rugeley. Her mother was Lady Alice Edshaw Weston, born 1465 in Petworth, Sussex, England, and died about 1547, location unknown.  They would have been my 11th great grandparents.  The family consisted of about 2 daughters and 6 sons.  Again the last one was born after her 51st birthday.  But my connection is her earliest child, Agnes.

It looks as if the Westons are going to need further research...see you tomorrow!

Saturday, October 27, 2018

Ancestors of Bowers grandparents

What about Dame Greesly Bowers, Joan Bridmore Bowers, Joan Moggeridge Bowers, Werner Minster Bowers, and Barbara Smith Bowers?

We've already looked at Benanuell Bowers and his wife HERE.

His father George Bowers, married on 9 Feb. 1614  Barbara Smyth Bowers, in Braithwell, Yorkshire, England. Dear Barbara Smyth, both her names are spelled any number of ways.  And her father could have been George, John or Thomas Smith.  I know that one of these men was a 9th great grandfather of mine, But I don't have the patience to figure it out (or just to make a guess.)

The mother of George Bowers was Irwerner Elizabeth Minster Bowers. We only know she was married in 1590, the same year George was born.  The other son listed in their family was Richard, born in 1600. We think both she and her husband Thomas Bowers died in 1659.  I've tried changing the order of her names around, to see if there were people of the surname Irwerner, or Minster.  And using Elizabeth as her first name.  No parents have appeared yet.

Thomas Bowers' father, Edmond L. Bower, the gentleman, married Joan Moggeridge Bowers (1509-1565), in 1558, then didn't have their son, Thomas until she was 55 years old.  We all know that's pretty ridiculous.  So I've taken the option (being his great times 9 granddaughter) of moving Edmond's birth date back 10 years, changing it on my tree to 1555 rather than 1565.  His mother still died in 1565.

That didn't work however, because his death date is still 1659...at age 104.  It didn't make much sense before, that the couple died the same year, and there are no records to substantiate it.  SO...let's move the death dates to closer to when their children had been born.  I can always undo this.  I'm keeping notes right here as to what I'm attempting.  I'm giving him a death date of about 1620 (age 65) and her a death date of about 1630 (age 60).

I'll look further at Edmond's mother tomorrow. I'm sorry if I'm changing data and that's not really ethical...but neither is passing on misinformation where a mother gives birth at 55 and then again at 65.


Friday, October 26, 2018

Further back for Bowers family

The Ancestry trees say Edmond Bower had parents also.  Robert Bower (1493-1517) who married Agnes Weston Bower (1481-1535) in 1513 in Norfolk, Eng.

His parents were John Bower (1478-1498) and Joan Bridmore (1452-?) from Mere, Witshire, Eng.  I'm going to add a Jr. to his name, because he was the son of another John Bower, to whom I'll add Sr. for clarification while talking about them.  John Bower Sr. (1460-1479) married Dame Edith Eizabeth Gresly (Bower) (1462-1523).

But there were so many John Bowers, and the trees are loaded (literally) with them.  One generation has three born to the same mother.  I looked hard to see how old she would have been.  And then I threw up my hands.

I liked that one of the Westons might have had a daughter (whose name I've now forgotten) who married (or maybe it was a granddaughter) the son of Sir. Richard Rogers. I'm a descendent of his, and looked to see if she appeared on my tree.  No, and that son and grandson were the wrong ages to marry a daughter or granddaughter of the Westons.  It's all tied in with the peerage of England.  And that's why I quit going back up that branch of my tree.

I'll acknowledge some John Bower and wife were my 12th great grandparents.  I'm not going back any further than 1450 for now.  I know, I am probably missing the link to royalty.  It wouldn't make me feel a bit different.

But I won't miss the chance to check on a few other family branches that the wives might offer, besides the Westons.  What about Dame Greesly Bowers, Joan Bridmore Bowers, Joan Moggeridge Bowers, Werner Minster Bowers, and Barbara Smith Bowers?  Something to check for tomorrow.

Thursday, October 25, 2018

Another line to chase for pinnacles

Having reached the end of the lines of the Sylvester family ancestors, let's see where we can go by looking at their offspring and then back up to more ancestors on my line.  Captain Nathaniel Sylvester and Grisselle Wase Sylvester's daughter, Ann Sylvester Bowers (1669-1745) married Captain Jonathan Bowers (1673-1750) in Boston in 1695.  They had both been born in America, but of their parents, only his father had also been born in America.

To go back along the Bowers line, Jonathan's father was Benanuell Bowers (1627-1698) who was born and died in Cambridge Massachusetts. He was my 7th great grandfather.

He is a character, a Harvard graduate, and had a lot of documentation about his life as a Quaker, vs. the Puritans of early Cambridge MA.  I dedicated a whole post to himself and his wife's life HERE.

His father George Bowers (1590-1656) was born in Lincolnshire, England.  The English Origins of New England Families, Second Series, Vol. 1, including additions and corrections in a footnote, gives excellent information on George Bowers. He had arrived in Scituate with the Plymouth Colony by 1639, but moved to Cambridge for the rest of his life. He had married Barbara Smith of Brythwell, in Brythwell England in Feb. 1614/15.

Going on up the tree's branches his father was Thomas Bowers (1565-1659) who was born in Yorkshire and died in Lincolnshire, England.  I don't really believe that he and his wife lived into their late 80s and 90s... as their death dates could have been misleading...in all probability.  His wife was Iwerner Elizabeth Minster (Minister) Bowers (1570-1659).  If you are interested in these dates, you will probably notice she had 2 children, George and Richard, in 1590 and 1600 respectively.  I'm pretty sure these are "approximately" dates.

One source (recent, not a primary source) speaks as if Irwirner Minster was a place...and that George was the third child of Thomas' third wife.  That doesn't help much. And the same source thinks Thomas may have been a descendent of Richard de Bures, Normandy to England.

I'm not changing my tree yet based on that information.  So today I've gone as far as Thomas Bowers, who was 9th great grandfather.  But wait, there's also a father and mother just listed on the tree for him.

How about Edmond Bower, Gentleman (1513-1570) and wife, Joan Moggeridge Bower (1509-1565)?  They are the 10th great grandparents in this line, but these dates are difficult to cope with.  They may have married in 1558, probably in Lincolnshire, or maybe Norfolk.  The hardest date of all to believe is the birth of their son, Thomas, when Joan was 55 years old.  She could not have been born past 1509, since that's the year her own father died.

As often seems to happen, there is a possibility another generation has been lost to time, with the same names.  But here are the end of the Bowers line.

No, I'm wrong again....more tomorrow. There are more Bowers ancestors.



Wednesday, October 24, 2018

More pinnacle ancestors

Pinnacle - this has become my own name for the furthest back (thus highest rank in numbers of greats) ancestors.

The daughter (in my line of ancestors) of Thomas Reeves Brinley, Esq. (1591-1661) was Griselle Wase Brinley Sylvester (1635-1687) who married Capt. Nathaniel Gascoigne Sylvester (1625-1680.)

Capt. Sylvester has more to be added to his biography and lineage.

I just discovered his father Giles Sylvester's (1588-1651/52) baptismal record.    Giles would be my 8th great grandfather.  He was born probably in 1588 and baptized on Nov. 8, 1588 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England.  This record states his father was John Silvester, though other Ancestry trees (about 10 of them) all say his father was Joshua.  It's possible they read the same record differently.  I'll keep John as his father for now.

Ah ha, I just found more church records, and John Silvester of Salisbury, Wiltshire, England married 
Alice Wyllyams in 1590...the original record is available to look at and try to decipher, see below.










Church of England records, 1538-1812, Salisbury, St Thomas, Wiltshire, England






Though I read the burial record above and think I see John Sylvester son of John Sylvester, the index says it was Alice Wyllyam Sylvester's death record.  OK, I admit it's hard to decipher.

I just found out why there are so many records of Joshua Silvester and his wife.  Come to find out he was a poet and secretary to an organization called the Merchant Adventurers, who were the English shipping magnates of the time. There's a lot written about him, and it's very interesting.

I just found a "Wilkinson Family Tree" on Ancestry, which gives John Silvester a father and mother's names.  They are Thomas and Elizabeth Chase Silvester, no dates for either of them, but they would be 10th great grandparents, if I find more about them.  For now I'l do a trick that often brings more details.  I'll look at the date of John's birth, and give an approximate date of birth for father and mother's 20 years earlier.  Sometimes that pops up a record within 4-5 years.  Actually the Wilkinson tree says John had been born in 1553 in a place called Laycock, Wiltshire, Eng. rather than abt. 1558 without any place indicated.  However, there is nothing to substantiate this information (yet.)

Ah ha...before I did anything, Alice Wyllyams Silvester had "hints" pop up in my tree over on Ancestry...giving her a father named Edward Wyllyams.  He would be an 11th great grandfather. I only have a baptismal date for Alice, which states her father's name.  She was baptized at St. Edmunds, Salisbury, Wiltshire, Eng. April 25, 1570.

Next I will look at Captain Nathaniel Sylvester's daughter, Ann Sylvester Bowers (1699-1745)  and her husband Jonathan Bowers' (1673-1750) family's ancestors.



Tuesday, October 23, 2018

Wase and Cole family wives, other pinnacles of my ancestry!

Now I'm following the Brinley ancestors of Anne Wase Brinley (@1600-1687) wife of Thomas Reeves Brinley (1591-1661) her father was William Wase ((1580-1642) whose line we followed yesterday.

Her mother was Anne Cole Wase (1582-1607). She was a 9th great grandmother. The date of her baptism was 14 April 1579 in Tewksbury, Gloucestershire, England...or 1582 in another area  of England.  Some of these documents give a name of Ann Wade, as if all the transcriptions were wrong. The dates and places are on wonderful old illegible documents. I think Anne Cole's father was Thomas Cole (1530-1611), and her mother may have been Anne Hanbey Cole (1540-1586).

These 10th great grandparents, the Coles, have very few documents, and dates that prompt me to have raised eyebrows.  Did they marry when she was 13, and not have their daughter until she was 39?

The other 10th great grandmother would have been William Wase's mother, Christiana Budd Wase.  We know little about her except she was probably born in 1556 in Sussex, England.  Her father was mentioned as being Richarduss Budd, in old documents talking about the auditors of the English Kings.  (Note that makes him an 11th great grandfather.) He had been one of about 7 auditors before having an apprentice named William Wase, who had an apprentice named Thomas Reeves Brinley. (See my posts about him earlier this week.)

Next post will be about the ancestors of the American colonial immigrants, Griselle Wase Brinley Sylvester's husband, Captain Nathaniel Gascoigne Sylvester. I wonder how far back I'll find pinnacle ancestors along the Sylvesters.

Monday, October 22, 2018

The pinnacles of my ancestry

I think of these as the highest mountains, the ancestors who lived furthest back in records, at least as far back as I know.
So today I'm considering my 10 times great grandparents...

LAWRENCE BRINLEY

BIRTH 1530  Willenhall, Staffordshire, England

DEATH 1574  Staffordshire, England



and his wife:

ANN FLETCHER Brinley

BIRTH 1529  Stafordshire, England

DEATH 23 APR 1592  Staffordshire, England


These English ancestors lived while Henry VIII was king of England (on the throne from 1509-1547) and Edward VI, Lady Jane Grey, and Mary I (Tudor), then while Elizabeth I was queen from 1558-1603.
Henry VIII of England

Elizabeth I of England

We only have a glimpse of my Brinley ancestors, by documents of churches and courts...Lawrence Brinley had a probate record indexed in Shropshire: Lichfield in 1574.  

Ann Fletcher Brinley has had some Ancestry people (called Millennial records) thinking she was daughter of a man named Hawthorne, and thus was given further ancestry.  But Fletcher is the maiden name that I've found in a Staffordshire Parish record of her death.  Even that might not be correct.

What are other 10th great grandparents that I know of?

Lawrence and Ann Fletcher Brinley's son, Richard Brinley married twice, and his second wife was Joanne Reeves Brinley (mother of Thomas Reeves Brinley).  Her father was another 10th grandfather.  

His name was Richard Reeve, and I mentioned him in an earlier post, (HERE).  Since I wrote that last post we now have a Church of England marriage record to H???  in Devizes, St John the Baptist, Wiltshire, England. It's beautiful writing but mostly illegible. The marriage took place on 2 Dec. 1564.  Their daughter Joanne Reeves Brinley was born probably in 1563.

Joanne Reeves Brinley and Richard Brinley's son, Thomas Reeves Brinley's wife was Anna Wase Brinley, (we can follow her father's line to her father, William Wase (1580-1642), another 10th great grandfather.  His burial is documented as being in the same churchyard as his son-on-law, Thomas Brinley, though he died a decade before. His tomb inscription (according to the L'Hommendieu Index) states "Here leith the body of the aforesaid William Ware* who died the 19 of September, 1642, aged 62 years and 5 months." (The * refers to Ware having been mistranscribed from Wase.)

This 10th great, William Wase (1580-1642) was son of William Wase (1554-1597) a 11th great grandfather!  I have no documentation of his birth, but several with the general year but differing dates and places of his death.

Since his father (my 12th great grandfather) was also William Wase of Wollavington, (1520-unknown) there may have been some confusion as to some of these unrecorded birth and death dates.

There are still some records coming up for a William Henry Wase, and I don't know where he fits into the family yet. 

I am considering how long most people lived in those days, and there may well have been another generation which isn't accounted for. The "12th great" sounds as if he didn't marry and have children till quite late in his life.

But until more primary documentation comes along, I'll leave my tree as it stands.

Now to look at the wives of the Wase family.  Next time...













Sunday, October 21, 2018

Thomas Brinley and more information

To continue the discussion of my ancestor's life, Thomas Brinley, as auditor to Kind Charles I, living in Dachet, England (see yesterday's post please.)
"The Auditors of the King's Revenue were officials whom we would now call civil servants. Land and property made up much of the crown's great wealth, but Tudor and Stuart monarchs were constantly short of actual money. The Auditors' primary job had been to visit the king's estates to assess and collect rents, but increasingly they were also required to value land, make contact with buyers and negotiate sales to boost the royal coffers. Thus they combined the skills of a modern accountant, a surveyor and an estate agent, and answered fairly directly to the King although the office was a branch of the Exchequer. This was a closely-knit group, as young men were trained as clerks to one of the seven Auditors before becoming their deputies or partners and eventually taking on an Auditorship themselves. 
"The first Auditor living in Datchet was Richard Budd, to whom Thomas Brinley was clerk. We know Budd was here at least by 1625 because in that year he wrote to the tax collector in London to say that he had already paid his dues in Datchet - but of course he didn't give anything so useful as his address! Budd had himself been clerk to Auditor Thomas Hanbury (brother of Richard) in the 1580s and...his sister had married into the Wase family, and that relationship was extended when his clerk Thomas Brinley married Anne Wase in about 1630. Such a dense network of family and business interests is typical of the time, and the above is only a brief outline of a much more complex situation.

Village of Dachet, England map 1833

"We do not know where in the village Richard Budd actually lived, but the current suggestion is that it may have been the Manor House, perhaps followed by the Wases and eventually by Thomas Brinley. It was rented out directly by the crown and then by the Wheelers who bought it as part of the Manor of Datchet in 1631, and is the only high status house with no known occupants during this period. Neither Richard Budd, William Wase nor Thomas Brinley left any property in Datchet by their wills, which strongly suggests that they had rented rather than owned the houses where they lived; this is just one more piece of circumstantial evidence.
Postcard 1910, hand colored, showing Manor House buildings on right.
 From left past Morning Star: two shops; low blacksmith’s building; Jubilee Cross 1897 & Oak Tree 1887; Country Life Club in background; drinking fountain at original site; large elm tree (cut down 1940s); Chemist’s, Bank & Bank House, all about 1907. (Hand-coloured postcard, Royal Windsor Web Site)

"Budd was a wealthy man; in a taxation list he paid an amount second only to William Wheeler of Riding Court, but as the value of his possessions rather than land, which was probably even more impressive to his neighbours. He was godfather to Brinley's son Richard and left him by his will all his 'household stuff' at Datchet, to be used by Richard's mother Anne Brinley during her life. To Thomas Brinley Budd bequeathed his copy of Sir Walter Raleigh's History of England.
"There is one source which provides a tiny glimpse into the lives of these people: in 1626 Eton College held an inquiry into the will of the vicar of Datchet, because his widow was refusing to hand over a bequest the vicar was said to have made to the College. Richard and Rose Budd, together with Thomas Brinley and several other gentlemen from the village, attested to how the will was found concealed in the vicar's clothes when he died suddenly at the vicarage house. Auditor Budd stated that the vicar had made a will by his advice, sitting in an arbour in the garden of Budd's house in Datchet. All the witnesses had come running to the vicarage when he was taken ill, having been carried there by two men in a chair. Rose said that the other gentlemen found the purported will in his 'bosom' as they unloosed the sick man's cassock while she ran to fetch clean sheets and a warming pan to make up his bed. When she came back the papers were shown to her, laid on the window sill, and she gave them to the vicar's maid to pass onto his wife as she was told they were important. The outcome of the inquiry is unclear, but the circumstances could be seen as suspicious.
"The main interest of this case is to show that by 1626 we have not only Richard Budd living in the village but also his clerk Thomas Brinley at least visiting if not actually living here with him. In 1647 Brinley's youngest child was baptised in the village church, all the others having been baptised in the 1630s and 1640s in London. During the period of the Civil War and Cromwell's Commonwealth, from 1649 to 1660, Thomas and Anne Brinley were in dire trouble; he was seen as a Royalist by the Parliamentary side and stripped of his office and it is possible that all his assets were seized. It has been suggested that he went into hiding, and he certainly kept a very low profile throughout those dangerous years. There is evidence that the couple were trying to maximise their financial investments overseas in order to provide for all their children, the seven daughters and three surviving sons, in case the worst should happen.
"On the restoration of Charles II in 1660 Brinley was given back his original auditorship but died a year later, which explains the tombstone claim of having been an Auditor to Kings Charles I and II. The last, and most convincing, piece of evidence is provided by Brinley's will in 1661. As was usual, two of his neighbours drew up an inventory of the possessions in his house, valuing them for probate purposes and listing items in each room in order as they walked through. It is strange that Brinley's possessions seem hardly sufficient to furnish the house and are of low value; perhaps he had fallen on very hard times or maybe everything of quality had already been passed on to his children for safe-keeping. Such inventories are often used for establishing the number and type of rooms in houses of the past, and the internal layout at various periods. In this case, if the two present tenements of the Manor House are read as one, the appraisors' route exactly fits for the three stories and the sequence of rooms, including some unusual features which are similar to Riding Court. On this basis alone it is highly likely that it was Thomas Brinley's house, at least at the time of his death. As at present there were subsidiary dwellings each side of the big house which may have been occupied simultaneously by this group of families - or by others completely unrelated.
"The reason for American interest in the Brinley tombstone is that several of his children settled on Long Island, having been sent out for their own safety and prosperity during the perilous Civil War years in England...their fortunes at Sylvester Manor, an important and almost unchanged early settlement, [have been mentioned in previous posts, HERE and here.]
 Source:
http://www.datchethistory.org.uk/Link%20Articles/manor_thomas_brinley.htm

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My own thoughts:
All the kings employees were in the same amount of danger when Charles I was arrested by Cromwellian and Parliamentary revolutionaries.  I think this historian put Thomas Brinley in a more severe situation than necessary. Charles I had had many financial difficulties, and that was part of the basis of Parliament taking over his powers. Unless Brinley was somehow at fault for some of these financial problems, his situation was simply that of being employed by a king who was unpopular to the extent a war was waged against him, and he was executed.  I think it was a wise man to hide from former associates about that time.

Brinley's loyalty was rewarded in that he was reinstated in his position of Auditor when Charles II came to power in 1660, though Brinley only lived until 15 Oct. 1661.  His will (including a codicil) is included below.  I found it most interesting that in the codicil he urged his beneficiaries to sell some land right away.  Perhaps he had some knowledge that made that a good bargain.
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Will of Thomas Brinley

"Thomas Brinley, of Datchett, co. Bucks, Esq., 13 September, 1661 with codicil of 16 October, 1661, proved 11 December, 1661.
"My third of tenements in the town of Newcastle upon Tyne, and two thirds of the manor of Burton in Yorkshire, to eldest son, Francis Brinley and his heirs. My half of the township or manor of Wakerfield, heretofore parcell of the Lordship of Raby, and my lands and tenements in Wakerfield, county and Bishoprick of Durham, purchased in the names of William Wase of Durham and of Robert Worrall, lately deceased, and of Michael Lambcroft, lately deceased, and of John Maddocke, of Cuddington, co. Chester, in trust for the use of me, the said Thomas Brinley, and the said Robert Worrall and our heirs and assigns forever, to my wife, Anne Brinley, during her natural life; at her death to eldest son, Francis Brinley. My lands in Horton and Stanwell, in the several counties of Middlesex and Bucks, and, by me purchased of Henry Bulstrode of Horton, to wife Anne for life; then to my second son, Thomas Brinley, a lease of ninety-nine years. Certain other lands and, lately bought of James Styles, the elder, of Langley, to daughter Mary Silvester, widow and her daughter, my granddaughter, Mary Silvester, the younger, who are both left destitute of subsistence by the decease of my said daughter's late husband, Peter Silvester, To the children of my daughter Grissell, the now wife of Nathaniel Silvester, gentleman, dwelling in New England, in the parts of America, in an island called Shelter Island, one hundred pounds within one year after my decease.

"The witnesses to the will were Robert Style and Rose Baker.
"In the codicil he bequeaths legacies to his brother Lawrence Brinley and Richard Brinley his son, both of London, merchants, to the intent that they shall with all conv enient speed sell that half of said lands, (in Wakerfield), for the best rate and value that they can get for the same. The witnesses to this codicil were William Wase, Budd Wase, William Carter, and William Brinley. The will was proved by the Widow, Anne Brinley.

Saturday, October 20, 2018

Thomas Reeves Brinley of Datchett, Buckinghamshire, England

THOMAS REEVES BRINLEY

Birth 1591 • Exeter, Devon, England
Death 15 OCTOBER 1661 • Datchett, Buckinghamshire, England
my 8th Great Grandfather who died on Oct. 15 1661 (I don't know when he was born).

His daughter, Griselle Wase Brindley Sylvester, (1635-1687) married Capt. Nathaniel Gascoigne Sylvester (1610-1680) in the American Colonies, namely Sylvester Island, (Long Island) New York.

The following was posted earlier in the year, when I tried to learn a bit more about the history of his life.

Background info (short) for us colonials who know so little of Charles I and Cromwell.

Charles I of England, (19 November 1600 – 30 January 1649) was monarch of the three kingdoms of EnglandScotland, and Ireland from 27 March 1625 until his execution in 1649.

After his succession, Charles quarrelled with the Parliament of England, which sought to curb his royal prerogative. Charles believed in the divine right of kings and thought he could govern according to his own conscience. Many of his subjects opposed his policies, in particular the levying of taxes without parliamentary consent, and perceived his actions as those of a tyrannical absolute monarch. His religious policies, coupled with his marriage to a Roman Catholic, generated the antipathy and mistrust of Reformed groups such as the English Puritans and Scottish Covenanters, who thought his views were too Catholic. He supported high church Anglican ecclesiastics, such as Richard Montagu and William Laud, and failed to aid Protestant forces successfully during the Thirty Years' War. His attempts to force the Church of Scotland to adopt high Anglican practices led to the Bishops' Wars, strengthened the position of the English and Scottish parliaments and helped precipitate his own downfall.
From 1642, Charles fought the armies of the English and Scottish parliaments in the English Civil War. After his defeat in 1645, he surrendered, [however] Charles forged an alliance with Scotland, but by the end of 1648 Oliver Cromwell's New Model Army had consolidated its control over England.... [Charles] was tried, convicted, and executed for high treason in January 1649. The monarchy was abolished and a republic called the Commonwealth of England was declared. The monarchy was restored to Charles's son, Charles II, in 1660.  
Source: Wikepedia.
I'll leave history with Cromwell for you to learn about elsewhere (a suggested source is here at Wikepedia.)

Thomas Brinley, Royal Auditor for Charles I and Charles II

My ancestor, Great times 8 grandfather through our Ada Swasey Rogers family tree, lived, worked and died in Dachet, England, right across the River Thames from Windsor Castle.

The town of Dachet is well recorded in history, and has a good site for further information HERE.
"The earliest settlement of the present village was centred around the church which is on an ‘island’ of high ground in otherwise low lying land and was probably a pre-Christian fortified site. Opposite, on the south side of the Green, is the Manor House range of buildings dating from the 1500s. At that time the characteristic Greens did not exist and a stream ran through the centre of the village widening to a pool in front of the Manor House; this was culverted in the 1840s to create the dry land of the present Greens.
"Datchet’s characteristic Victorian ‘mock Tudor’ architectural style was introduced when the Manor House was restored and re-fronted in about 1870.  
First known photograph of Dachet, around 1870
From left: Old Manor House; Manor House 1 & 2, newly re-fronted in mock-Tudor style and patterned roof tiles; Manor & Manor Green Cottage; Manor Hotel all whitewashed before any rebuilding; next white building is White Hart on opposite corner of High Street, with barns at back; Morning Star and ‘Temples’ building; old cottages; sign post pointing down Queens Road; gaslight in centre of village (no drinking fountain or Jubilee oak & cross yet); Royal Stag sign (pub out of shot); old cottages replaced by Bank & Bank House.

A business in one part of the Manor House
Dachet Manor House:
" ...A group of families ... probably lived at the Manor House in the 1800s and perhaps as far back as the early 1700s. Before that, although the evidence is very slight, it seems to have been occupied by royal officials, part of a group based in London but also living conveniently close to the Castle in Windsor, Eton and Datchet. The most significant character was Thomas Brinley, whose tombstone in the church is frequently visited by Americans seeking their ancestors. This black marble slab has been re-set in the chancel floor behind the altar and is easily seen. The inscription reads:

HERE LYETH Ye BODY OF THOMAS BRINLEY
ESQ BEINGE ONE OF THE AUDITORS OF
THE REVENNUE OF KINGE CHARLES THE
FIRST AND OF KINGE CHARLES Ye SECOND
BORNE IN THE CITTY OF EXETER HEE
MARRYED ANNE Ye DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM
WASE OF PETWORTH IN SUSSEX GENT
WHO HAD ISSUE BY HER FIVE SONNES AND
SEAVEN DAUGHTERS HE DIED Ye 15TH DAY OF
OCTOr IN THE YEARE OF OUR LORD 1661 



 Source:
http://www.datchethistory.org.uk/Link%20Articles/manor_thomas_brinley.htm
I'll have more about him tomorrow.