And John Granger's parents were...

...John Granger III, and Elizabeth Harvey Smith Granger of Calbourne, Isle of Wight, England. They married in 1572 in Culmstock, Devon England...and had their daughter Annis Agnes in Isle of Wight, in 1567.Their son, John Granger IV was born in 1576 in Bedfordshire, in 1576...who grew up to marry a Mi'kmaq Indian woman named Jeanne/Grace Marie.

Brading Church, Isle of Wight

Different places had records apparently. I am amazed that there are any records from this far back. The churches did what they could. John IV's mother apparently died in 1577, and his father in 1591, age 41.

Grandfather of our John (married to the Mi'kmaq woman, Jeanne/Grace) was John (Samuel) Granger II, and his wife was Grace Williamson Granger. John (Samuel) Granger II had been born in 1520 in Isle of Wight, and his wife was born in 1530, place unknown. The grandfather apparently died in 1549, before the birth of his son John III in 1550. Grace apparently lived till 1599, and some ancestry people said she died in Plymouth MA. I kind of doubt that, (I can't imagine taking a grandmother age 69 to the colonies) so have left the place of her death missing.

Map of the Isle of Wight

The oldest John Grainger/Granger I in this family was born in 1490, in Isle of Wight, and died in 1559 in Isle of Wight. His wife was named Johne/Jane Whytyng, She was born about 1501 in the Parish of St. Peter and St. Paul, Langton, Lincolnshire, England, She died after 1522 in Isle of Wight.

Carisbrooke Castle, Isle of Wight

These are my thirteen times great grandparents, and none of my trees show any further names recorded of my ancestors in the Granger line.

The Granger connection is through my father's mother, Ada Swasey Rogers, whose grandmother was a Granger of New England.

At the time my Granger grandparents with 11 to 13 greats to show their generations lived in the Isle of Wight, most of the population were either farmers, fishermen, or boat builders or sail makers. I would imagine the castle existed then, but nobody mentioned who lived there so I'll assume it wasn't any of my ancestors.

And a recent news item of Juneteenth becoming a national holiday makes me wonder if my Granger family was related to Maj. Gen. Gordon Granger (the Union officer who took over Galveston) who announced the Enslaved persons of Texas were free as of two and a half years earlier.  I haven't seen any relatives by the name of Gordon.

Webb Family of Texas

Happy Father's Day for 2021!

Repost from 2018 

...here are the siblings of my grandfather who I never knew, Albert (Bud) Webb, (1891-1919). Bud was the next to youngest of 8 children of Leroy 1857-1921) and Annie Elizabeth Williams Webb (1862-1942).

It's also Mrs. Webb's birthday on June 20, so happy birthday great grandmother! 
And this former post talks about Annie Williams Webb's ancestors who traveled west to Texas.
HERE is a former blog I wrote about Granddad Bud.

The photo below shows the Webb feed store, including some gentlemen standing up high!

Here is a blog about his father, Leroy (Larry, Leary) Webb and his family.

I have looked a bit more at Bud Webb's older brother, John Webb (1880-1938) Here,
and HERE.

Great grandfather Leroy (or L. F. perhaps) lived with his family in San Antonio at 130 Lewis St. for several census reports. When my grandfather, Albert Bud Webb, signed his draft card in 1917, his address was 96 Lewis St, which is still a small cottage.  At that time he had married my grandmother, and my mother had just been born.

2016 street view of 125 Lewis St, San Antonio, TX  Google image, with some strange coloration through my printer!  There was no 130 Lewis St any more, but the curved 2 story porch on this house situated on a corner, says that it was thoughtfully created. This house now holds offices of a psychological practice. If the homes were arranged the normal way of counting, 130 would have been across the street from this house.

Grandpa Bud's oldest brother, James Eugene Webb, (1878-1927) married in 1904 to Alvina (Ollie) Albrecht Webb, who had been born in Texas in 1885, and lived until 1971. She had a 4th grade education, and her father Wilhelm came from Germany, but her mother Louise Alwine Dorbritz Albrecht was born in Texas. Ollie was one of 18 children according to the list at Ancestry.  But she and J. E. only had one child.  So that's just 2 grandchildren of the L. F. and Annie Webb, so far.

Many German immigrants settled in the area of West Central Texas, part of the Mexican and then early Texan effort to have settlers come and make new communities in the mid nineteenth century.

So after James E, the next son born was John Webb (as mentioned in 2 previous posts.)  He had 3 daughters, bringing grandchildren total to 5.

Then Annie and L. F. Webb had a little girl Laura, who only lived 5 years.  Next birth for Annie and L. F.  was Marguerite Ellen Webb Carroll (1883-1951). Her husband also had his name spelled Carrel, and apparently was born in Arkansas.  Marguerite and David William Carroll  had one girl that I know of. (Grandchildren total now 6.)

The next youngest Webb was Thomas Ketch Webb, (1886-1959).  When he died in 1959 he was listed as owner of a small cafe' in San Antonio.  In 1930 he owned a "Flour and Feed" store. At the census of 1940 he and his wife lived with her parents, and his father-in-law owned a cigar stand and Tom worked for him.  At age 56 he registered for the draft for WW II in 1942.  His wife was Lenora Augusta Bilhartz (Bichortz) Webb, (1896-1972) with either German or Swiss parents.  They had no children. I like knowing that they both returned from Rio de Janeiro in 1947 on a ship, which records include his Brazilian visa and photo.

The next Webb child was Clara Belle Webb Bruce, ( 1888-1971) who married Fred C. Bruce (1881-1972).  They also had no children. Fred also was a proprietor of a cafe, in the 1930 census.  He lived a year beyond his wife.

And the baby of the family, born in 1905, was L. F. Webb, Jr.   He and his wife, Evelin Lafortune Webb, lived with the senior Webb family in that house (above at 130 Lewis St.) in the San Antonio Directory of 1929.   There's also a Social Security claim (undated) after L. F.'s death in 1937 with a daughter Evelin listed, who died in 1999, born 1927.  But there's a change I just noticed.  After L. F., (a labor foreman for the Missouri Pacific railroad,) died in 1937, Evelin Lafortune Webb married again. I don't have the date, but the census of 1940 shows her tucked into the Shults family living in "rural Beaxar County TX"

So it looks as if her next husband adopted her daughter Evelin, and she became Evelin Shults...and whether others of the family had been from a former marriage of his, or they were born to Evelin Sr., there were 5 children then.  And that wasn't the last of Mrs. Webb Shults.  Her husband Lt. Ray Shults of the US Air Force died in 1980, and she remarried in 1985 to Alphonse Paul Donaubauer, whom she also outlived.  I don't know if she died in 1997, and the Social Security lagged behind, or if she lived until 2000, when Social Security listed.

I can only share what's available on Ancestry, after all.  So I'm adding the one child of  L. F. Jr and his wife, Evelin Webb, namely Evelin Webb Shuts, giving the Webb family 7 grandchildren, one of whom was my mother.

This post belongs to the Barbara Booth Rogers Family Tree. Photo shows Mataley Mozelle Rogers, and her mother Mozelle Booth Miller, and my sister Mary Beth Rogers.

Mrs. John Granger, a Mi'kmaq woman

John Granger, (1576-1643) has records on Ancestry with a wife of the Mi'kmaq tribe of Nova Scotia, Canada. Her name was Jeanne or Grace Marie Granger. She was the daughter of Chief Henri (Sachem) Membertu...a name that had probably been passed along through several generations since 1510, dying in 1611.

Jeanne was born either in 1599 or about 1584. Apparently her mother, Gold Girl/Gold Leaf Mikmaw Marie had been born around 1560 or 1582, and died in 1611.

Jeanne married John Granger in 1602, location unknown. I don't know whether or not at some time they lived in England, though it would be easier to believe he stayed in America with her tribe. But John Granger had been born in Bedfordshire, England, where records indicate he also died. 

I must also guess that he traveled perhaps as an explorer or a fisherman or maybe trader, where he met Jeanne/Grace Marie the Mi'kmaq Indian in Nova Scotia. Though many records speak of the fur trading French, perhaps some contacts were also English. And since Jeanne/Grace Marie had an English name given to her, she may have been converted to Christianity by the various missionary Catholics.

John Granger was the father of Lancelot Granger, I, whose birth was recorded in Shellington, Bedfordshire, Eng, about in 1609. There are at least 2 sisters who were also born in Shellington, or registered there. Did they live in England or Nova Scotia? With the interesting stories of Lancelot being kidnapped, taken to the Colonies, then returning to claim his birthright, it's possible the families did have holdings in both places.

There is much conjecture in my mind, but other Ancestry members have given these names of the ancestors, my 10 times great grandparents.

Mi'kmaq life after western European contact.

Mi'kmaq ceremony

Mi'kmaq portraits

I found this bit of history about the  Mi'kmaq tribes of Native Americans.

 Micmac (Mi'kmaq)

"The Micmacs of eastern Canada and the northeastern corner of the United States (who prefer the phonetic spelling Mi'kmaq) first appeared in their homeland approximately ten thousand years ago. They call the region Mi'kma'ki. Archaeological evidence indicates that these first inhabitants arrived from the west and lived as hunters and gatherers attuned to the shifting, seasonal resources of the area. During the summer months they hunted and fished, sometimes venturing out to sea to hunt whales and porpoises. Their winter camps were inland, built along rivers and lakes so that they could augment their hunting by spearing and trapping eels and other water creatures.

Mi'kmaq portraits, with European influence

"The tribal territory included all of what is now Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island, the Gaspé Peninsula of Quebec, the north shore of New Brunswick and inland to the Saint John River watershed, eastern Maine, and part of Newfoundland, including the islands in the Gulf of Saint Lawrence as well as St. Pierre and Miquelon. The Micmacs' neighbors recognized their territory and rarely violated its borders. Micmac people thought of their homeland as containing seven districts: Kespukwitk, Sikepne'katik, Eski'kewaq, Unama'kik, Piktuk aqq Epekwitk, Sikniktewaq, and Kespe'kewaq. A keptan or saqmaw (district chief) presided in each jurisdiction, doubling as local ruler and delegate to the Grand Council Sante' Mawiomi.

"The Grand Council was the governing body of the nation and was led by several officers, including a kji'saqmaw (grand chief), a putus (treaty holder and counselor), and a kji'keptan (grand captain, adviser on political affairs). The Sante' Mawiomi determined where families might hunt, fish, and set up their wumitki (camp). More importantly, the Grand Council managed relations with other aboriginal nations. The Micmacs were members of the Wabanaki Confederacy, a loose coalition that included the Maliseets, the Passamaquoddy, the Penobscots, and the Eastern and Western Abenakis of present-day Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont. At its peak, this confederacy influenced tribal life from the Gaspé Peninsula to northern New England.

"The Micmacs' first contact with Europeans did not surprise them or alter their worldview. A legend in which one of their spiritual beings traveled across the Atlantic to "discover" Europe taught that blue-eyed people would arrive from the east to disrupt their lives. Micmac people also knew the story of a woman who had a vision of an island floating toward their lands; the island was decked out with tall trees on which there were living beings. Thus the Micmacs were not startled by the appearance of early explorers in sailing sips. Instead, they greeted the newcomers, set up a brisk trade with them, and looked forward to incorporating the strangers' new technologies into their own culture.

"Relations with outsiders grew more complex when the Micmacs began converting to Catholicism. This process occurred over a seventy-year period, beginning with the conversion of Grand Chief Membertou in 1610. The Micmac Nation's first treaty with a European nation was an agreement with the Vatican and the Holy See. This treaty was symbolized by a wampum belt at whose center stood a black-robed priest, a cross, and a Micmac figure holding a pouch, representing the incorporation of Micmac spirituality within the context of Roman Catholicism. In the eighteenth century, the Micmacs established a series of treaties with the British Crown that gave Britain an alliance with the Wabanaki Confederacy and security across the region. During this era, the Micmacs adopted the eight-pointed star as a representation of their part of this alliance. Seven of the points represented the seven districts of Mi'kma'ki, with the eighth point standing for Great Britain and the Crown.

Mi'kmaq portraits

"The first of the series of treaties between the British Crown and the Micmac Nation was signed in 1725. All were reaffirmed in 1752, and culminated in the Treaty and Royal Proclamation of 1763. The main thrust of these treaties was an exchange of Micmac loyalty for a guarantee that Micmacs would be able to continue hunting and fishing in their territory. These treaties have been recognized by the Supreme Court of Canada as legal and binding through its decisions in cases that have extended well into the present century.

"The Grand Council of the Micmac Nation has survived the passage of time, and its officers now have both secular and religious duties. Because of the nature of the Micmac homeland, the Grand Council's jurisdiction is international. The First Nation communities (reservations) of Canada are governed by an elected chief and council, who hold office for two years. Under the terms of a 1959 act of the Canadian Parliament, all aboriginal people of Canada are Canadian citizens and have the right to vote in federal and provincial elections.

Mi'kmaq portraiture

"The Micmac language is part of the Algonquian language family, and its ancestral language is Proto-Algonquian. Early forms of communication among the Micmacs included an elaborate system of runners who went from village to village relaying messages about recent or future events, treaties entered into, and even calls to war.

"The earliest written language was a hieroglyphics on birchbark or animal hides. Father La Clerq, a French missionary priest, noticed children using this system as a memory aid and adapted it to translate scriptures in 1691. Silas T. Rand wrote out the sounds as he heard them spoken using the modern-day alphabet. He used his work to translate scripture as well as ordinary communication into the Micmac language and published a forty thousand-word grammar in 1894. A new orthography was developed in 1974 to give a more accurate representation of the sounds in the Micmac language. There are eleven consonants in Micmac—p, t, k, q, j, s, l, m, n, w, and y. And there are six vowels—a, e, i, o, and u, along with their corresponding long sounds, and schwa, denoted by a barred i.

"Micmac is a polysynthetic, non-gender-specific, verb-oriented language with approximately seventy-five hundred native speakers in the Micmac Nation. Recently there has been renewed interest in the language, and it is being introduced into the reservation schools as part of the curriculum. In addition to the language, Micmacs have also focused on waltes, a traditional Micmac game. Waltes was believed by Euro-Americans to be a heathen game that promoted infidelity, promiscuity, and gambling. Indian agents and the clergy tried to stop it for decades, but it has survived as an important element in traditional tribal life. In addition, modern Micmac society has retained some of its skills in crafts such as basket making, working with hides, and using beads or quills on birch bark and hides.

Mi'kmaq portraiture

Franco/American early contacts

"The Micmac population is (1990) approximately twenty thousand, with one-third able to speak and/or write in Micmac. Unemployment is the major problem on the modern reservations. More and more Micmacs are educating themselves, with the schools incorporating the language and culture into their curricula. There is also a concentrated effort to incorporate Micmac history into the general history of the region as taught in the Nova Scotia schools. The Nova Scotia government has designated the month of October as Micmac History Month. Unfortunately, such gains are often undermined by the lack of adequate employment for young, educated tribal members. Nevertheless, Micmac elders are adamant in their belief that the key to tribal survival is the maintenance of the group's language, culture, and traditions.

"Eleanor Johnson, Paqtatek "Mi'kmaq Tribal Consciousness in the Twentieth Century" ed. Stephanie Inglis and Joy Manette (Halifax, Nova Scotia: Garamound Press, 1990); Isabelle Knockwood, Out of the Depths (Lockport, Nova Scotia: Roseway Publishing, 1992).

Patrick Johnson Mi'kmaq

University College of Cape Breton

Sydney, Nova Scotia"

All photos from internet illustrations.

And honestly, the Mi'kmaq connection might have been another Granger who married a woman of the tribe. Several of the Ancestry trees have different Granger men over about 50 years listed as married to a Mi'kmaq woman. However, I'll go with this connection for now.

Sharing with Sepia Saturday this week. 

 I like reading the SS postings, and several of them also do genealogical research!

The link is the letter K...used in the work Mi'kmaq.

My Adams great times 9 grandparents

Why post about them today? Well G grandmother Eleanor Adams died on this date in 1677.

These were the Puritans who came to America.
Robert and Eleanor Wilmot Adams landed in one of the early ships...in Ipswich MA in 1635.

They brought their first two children (John, age 3, and Joanna, age 1) with them, and had one child born and die in 1635 the year they arrived in America.  They then had 2 more children in the original settlement of Salem, Essex County, MA. Then they moved to Newbury, Essex county, MA, and had 8 more children, with the last one born when Eleanor was 41.  Eleanor died in 1677 at age 67, and Robert II remarried the next year to Sarah Glover Short, who was his age (according to the records at Ancestry) 76, and she lived until she was 95. She was the widow of Henry Short and then of Robert Adams.

When Robert and Eleanor's daughter, Joanna Adams married Lancelot Granger, he was not part of the freedmen of the Puritan church. One commentator in Ancestry said that he had enough riches that his not being a Puritan was overlooked by the tight church group.  The Grangers raised their family in Newbury MA until after their last child, then moved to Suffield CT as it was originally being settled.   (See post about Lancelot Granger HERE. and about Suffield CT HERE. )

Because there are only a few records about their lives, there are some controversies about who the Adams children were.  One descendent is positive 3 of the children listed at Find-A-Grave, didn't exist, nor did Eleanor as a "Wilmot."  There will probably continue to be controversies, and I just hope that my ancestors are listed and really existed...though of course they did exist whether or not they're listed in Ancestry!

I enjoy the controversy of different opinions about various ancestors, but I can certainly understand why some might lose the friendship of other historians over a conflict of their common ancestors. I just read very thorough information written in 1900 by a descendant of these Adams...which offers a great printed rendition of Robert Adams' will. However, the author also is among those with his own opinion as to which members of this family should be included.

Robert and Eleanor Adams are my 9th great grandparents.

They are no relation to the Adams of Quincy MA, of whom President John Adams was a descendant. But there is an interesting story in which these Adams might be cousins of the President's family...if our line were Welsh. Another story alludes to a possible Scottish connection.