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Wednesday, February 21, 2024

Update about the 1930s Texas German Americans

 I just was given an excellent link that helped explain how my mother had been involved in a Texas high school group wearing swastikas on their uniforms. I've updated this post to remove the German American Bund quote, and added fellow blogge, Mike Brubaker's information instead. Thanks Mike! His earlier comment is at the bottom of the post.

Mike BrubakerFebruary 18, 2024 at 10:46 PM (second comment of his research)

I've done more research, Barb, and I think I have found the answer to your mystery. As I discovered last week, in the 1930s there were a large number of "Swastika Clubs" in America and surprisingly there were many in Texas and in San Antonio too. Some were connected to a women's organization called Royal Neighbors of America that was associated with the Woodmen of the World fraternal order and still exists as a life insurance company. This group sponsored "Swastika Clubs" to encourage young women to enter the business world. They also liked to play bridge. But I could not find a direct connection to any San Antonio high school.

There was also a "Swastika Club" in San Antonio's Mexican-American community in the 1930s that was also for young women. It sponsored society balls and other benefit entertainments but its membership seemed to be just Hispanic people and it was not affiliated with any high school.

Then I found a couple of 1930s yearbooks from Jefferson High online that let me check if the swastika was possibly a school symbol. Obviously Thomas Jefferson High School had better history to use for symbols, mascots, and school names, but the yearbook had numerous photos of members of the school's ROTC and the swastika should patches were very clear on both boys and girls.

With a little more digging I found the answer. The swastika was once an insignia of the 45th Infantry Division, an infantry division of the U. S. Army, mostly associated with the Oklahoma Army National Guard, from 1920 to 1968. You can read about their history in Wikipedia which has a picture of the same swastika patch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/45th_Infantry_Division_(United_States)#Inter-war_years

The patch design was borrowed from Southwestern Native American symbols and approved in 1924. Though the 45th Division was a National Guard unit based in Oklahoma it recruited from young men throughout the southwestern region. As school ROTCs were being developed they used the uniform patterns of the nearest military units, so that's how the swastika patch became part of Jefferson high's unit. As the Nazi party in Germany came to power in 1932, the army sensibly decided to change the shoulder patch and in 1939 chose a Thunderbird symbol created by a Kiowa artist to replace it. Like many traditions it probably took time for schools to change too. Here's another website with some of the history:
https://www.thehistoricalfictioncompany.com/post/the-american-ww2-soldiers-who-wore-swastikas

The American use of the swastika in the 1930s was not associated with the rise of Hitler and the German Nazi party. A search through the newspaper archives found lots of "Swastika Clubs" but absolutely none included any reference to fascism, German nationalism, or Hitler. It was a design that unfortunately became connected to hatred and violence and forced many innocent organizations and even the the U. S. Army to abandon it. Though there were small groups of American fascists that formed in the 1930s, I fell confident that none of them were connected to a high school in San Antonio.


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Here're my photos from my post which shows 1933-34 Texas high school extra-curricular activities from their yearbooks. One photo with cut edges was in my mother's photo album.. 

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Edited from - Thursday, October 23, 2014

More uniforms

I continue sharing old yearbook pictures of my parents when they were in high school

By 1933 my father had met my mother probably, in Jefferson High School in San Antonio, TX.  She signed her name (Mataley Munhall) by her picture below, the right column at the bottom of portraits.  Is she in Company C's group picture?  Yes, front and center (well, to the right of the tall young man in the very center.)


I don't think my father (George Rogers) was in Company C until 1934.  Then he was listed among the members, but I can't find him in the crowd (photo below).  But where is my mother in 1934?
 


Mataley went to the newly formed Company D in 1934...and she was then listed as a sponsor.  I think George missed his chance, (that time) since she changed her marching company.  Incidentally, like many yearbooks, the group picture below does not have my mother located in the place that is indicated by her name.  She is actually the girl in the middle of the front row, with her eyes closed.  I know you were wondering about that!


I mentioned before  how these young people wore a swastika on their hats...(HERE).
When I remember Hitler's youth troops, it is even possible that his influence came into south Texas through the German connection.  These high school students certainly appeared to have enjoyed wearing uniforms. Here's another post about The Girls who liked to March. And another one with similar photos HERE.


Yes the club was made of young women who met "as a social aid to the Battalion"...and were called the Swastika Club.  I'm sure the young women stopped using that insignia in the early 40s.


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I have often wondered how her grandfather being German American would have influenced her. And of course many other German immigrants lived in the San Antonio area.

Sharing again with Sepia Saturday! 



PS: The first comment by Mike Brubaker with more information than I had before:

That is a troubling history to unravel, Barb. Before the Nazis party took over the swastika, it had long been a symbol for many cultures, including Native-Americans in the southwest. In the 1920s and 30s when American high schools began developing school identities with sports teams, clubs, bands, mascots, uniforms. etc. it would not be surprising if a school in Texas might use an ancient Indian symbol. However I don't think Jefferson High borrowed a tradition from the Indians or bought into a relatively new German fascist movement either. Instead, I think the "Swastika Club" your mother and father joined was part of the Y.W.C.A (Young Women’s Christian Association)!

I found several references for this. Here is another blogger writing about a Swastika Club in Ohio.
< https://mcdlgenealogyspot.blogspot.com/2018/11/when-being-member-of-swastika-club-was.html >

And Wikimedia has this image of girls from the same Jefferson High year book that identifies their club as part of the Y. W. C. A.
< https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Portrait_photos_of_school_girl_students_in_military-style_uniform,_cape,_dolman,_side_cap_with_swastika_symbol._YWCA_Swastika_Club._1935_yearbook_for_Jefferson_High_School_in_San_Antonio_Texas,_US._Low_resolution_image.jpg >

Under the long Wikipedia entry for "Western use of the swastika in the early 20th century" there is a section "Use by non-political clubs and organizations" that says "The Ladies' Home Journal sponsored a Girl's Club with swastika membership pins, swastika-decorated handkerchief and a magazine titled "The Swastika". Their version of the symbol was square with right facing arms. The club was formed at the beginning of the 20th century to encourage young women to sell magazine subscriptions."

When I looked up "Swastika Club" in Newspapers.com from 1930 to 1939 there were nearly 11,000 citations in newspapers all across the US. Another archive brought up nearly 700 hits for just Texas. Most of these Swastika Clubs seemed to be for women and several were in high schools. The reports were mainly notices about organizing bridge games, dances, benefits, or other innocent activities. They all used the swastika without any reference to Germany or the Nazi party. Despite what it looks like, I don't think the Jefferson High swastika club was promoting German nationalism or a fascist movement. I think it was just dressing up in a uniform style that would soon prove to be very politically incorrect.

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I posted his later comment to this blog at the top, since it summarizes the use of the swastika symbol for the Thomas Jefferson High School.

9 comments:

  1. How easily some innocent young people can be led by things they don't truly understand.is a real concern and it's not limited to things happening 90 years ago - it's happening here, now!

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  2. That is a troubling history to unravel, Barb. Before the Nazis party took over the swastika, it had long been a symbol for many cultures, including Native-Americans in the southwest. In the 1920s and 30s when American high schools began developing school identities with sports teams, clubs, bands, mascots, uniforms. etc. it would not be surprising if a school in Texas might use an ancient Indian symbol. However I don't think Jefferson High borrowed a tradition from the Indians or bought into a relatively new German fascist movement either. Instead, I think the "Swastika Club" your mother and father joined was part of the Y.W.C.A (Young Women’s Christian Association)!

    I found several references for this. Here is another blogger writing about a Swastika Club in Ohio.
    < https://mcdlgenealogyspot.blogspot.com/2018/11/when-being-member-of-swastika-club-was.html >

    And Wikimedia has this image of girls from the same Jefferson High year book that identifies their club as part of the Y. W. C. A.
    < https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Portrait_photos_of_school_girl_students_in_military-style_uniform,_cape,_dolman,_side_cap_with_swastika_symbol._YWCA_Swastika_Club._1935_yearbook_for_Jefferson_High_School_in_San_Antonio_Texas,_US._Low_resolution_image.jpg >

    Under the long Wikipedia entry for "Western use of the swastika in the early 20th century" there is a section "Use by non-political clubs and organizations" that says "The Ladies' Home Journal sponsored a Girl's Club with swastika membership pins, swastika-decorated handkerchief and a magazine titled "The Swastika". Their version of the symbol was square with right facing arms. The club was formed at the beginning of the 20th century to encourage young women to sell magazine subscriptions."

    When I looked up "Swastika Club" in Newspapers.com from 1930 to 1939 there were nearly 11,000 citations in newspapers all across the US. Another archive brought up nearly 700 hits for just Texas. Most of these Swastika Clubs seemed to be for women and several were in high schools. The reports were mainly notices about organizing bridge games, dances, benefits, or other innocent activities. They all used the swastika without any reference to Germany or the Nazi party. Despite what it looks like, I don't think the Jefferson High swastika club was promoting German nationalism or a fascist movement. I think it was just dressing up in a uniform style that would soon prove to be very politically incorrect.

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    1. Wow...this is incredible...that you found all these articles about the Swastika Clubs. Thank you so very much!! I'm going to add your comment to this post, in the text, so all these links are available as well. It does change a bit of my sense of how the girls in the early 30s in Texas were engaged in a militaristic club.

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  3. I never knew about this. The young aren't the only ones who get misled. However, they are easier to dupe so they're often targeted.

    Susan

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  4. I've done more research, Barb, and I think I have found the answer to your mystery. As I discovered last week, in the 1930s there were a large number of "Swastika Clubs" in America and surprisingly there were many in Texas and in San Antonio too. Some were connected to a women's organization called Royal Neighbors of America that was associated with the Woodmen of the World fraternal order and still exists as a life insurance company. This group sponsored "Swastika Clubs" to encourage young women to enter the business world. They also liked to play bridge. But I could not find a direct connection to any San Antonio high school.

    There was also a "Swastika Club" in San Antonio's Mexican-American community in the 1930s that was also for young women. It sponsored society balls and other benefit entertainments but its membership seemed to be just Hispanic people and it was not affiliated with any high school.

    Then I found a couple of 1930s yearbooks from Jefferson High online that let me check if the swastika was possibly a school symbol. Obviously Thomas Jefferson High School had better history to use for symbols, mascots, and school names, but the yearbook had numerous photos of members of the school's ROTC and the swastika should patches were very clear on both boys and girls.

    With a little more digging I found the answer. The swastika was once an insignia of the 45th Infantry Division, an infantry division of the U. S. Army, mostly associated with the Oklahoma Army National Guard, from 1920 to 1968. You can read about their history in Wikipedia which has a picture of the same swastika patch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/45th_Infantry_Division_(United_States)#Inter-war_years

    The patch design was borrowed from Southwestern Native American symbols and approved in 1924. Though the 45th Division was a National Guard unit based in Oklahoma it recruited from young men throughout the southwestern region. As school ROTCs were being developed they used the uniform patterns of the nearest military units, so that's how the swastika patch became part of Jefferson high's unit. As the Nazi party in Germany came to power in 1932, the army sensibly decided to change the shoulder patch and in 1939 chose a Thunderbird symbol created by a Kiowa artist to replace it. Like many traditions it probably took time for schools to change too. Here's another website with some of the history:
    https://www.thehistoricalfictioncompany.com/post/the-american-ww2-soldiers-who-wore-swastikas

    The American use of the swastika in the 1930s was not associated with the rise of Hitler and the German Nazi party. A search through the newspaper archives found lots of "Swastika Clubs" but absolutely none included any reference to fascism, German nationalism, or Hitler. It was a design that unfortunately became connected to hatred and violence and forced many innocent organizations and even the the U. S. Army to abandon it. Though there were small groups of American fascists that formed in the 1930s, I fell confident that none of them were connected to a high school in San Antonio.

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    1. Great to read this information, Mike. You've outdone yourself finding the meanings of the Swastika Clubs...the ROTC support units which my mother was part of (and her photos from those yearbooks were what started my search on this subject.)

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  5. Update brings forward the comments...even though I've included some in the text! Thanks so much!

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  6. Glad to see the mystery cleared up - yes, thanks, Mike! It was hard to imagine the Swastika being worn in this country back in the '30s, meant what it seemed to mean at first.

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  7. I'm very glad I was able to find an answer for your family mystery, Barb. When I first read about the school's use of this symbol I knew there had to be an innocent reason for it. Back in the post-WW1 era many organizations in America started using more "modern" military style uniforms, especially in school and civic bands. The fashion often included uniforms with cavalry jodhpur trousers, capes, and tall jack boots. It was a style that mimicked new austere European uniforms which were reacting to the old "royal" military uniforms which used a lot of embroidery, gold trim, and brass.

    Since in the 1930s and 40s these European uniforms became standards of fascist regimes, the style looks menacing and politically incorrect when seen in old American photos like your parent's high school yearbook. However since the U.S. Army first used a swastika for a reserve division badge several years before the rise of the Nazis, I feel certain that is its connection to Jefferson High. I suspect that after the start of WW2, when the symbol acquired a notorious connotation with fascism, the school board likely had it changed quietly without any public discussion. In a way it's not unlike our current political issue of mascots and names that offend Native Americans. But back then, I think, probably no one objected to the removal of the swastika. It was just too shameful.

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Looking forward to hearing from you! If you leave your email then others with similar family trees can contact you. Just commenting falls into the blogger dark hole; I'll gladly publish what you say just don't expect responses.