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REMEMBER: In North America, the month of September 1752 was exceptionally short, skipping 11 days, when the Gregorian Calendar was adapted from the old Julian one, which didn't have leap year days.

Saturday, June 28, 2025

Sitting on the edge

 People are being rescued who have fallen from our many waterfalls these days. After Hurricane Helene changed the paths of many of our water courses, the falls and pools below them are much more dangerous. But the park service which looks after the grounds, paths, parking lots and restrooms are diligent and trying to keep things safe.

What about those who want a photo with the pretty scene in the background?

Did you notice this is a winter-time shot?

Space Shuttle Atlantis docked with the International Space Station. Who is taking this photo?

Granddaughters dangling their feet over the inland waterway in St. Petersburg FL.



Two granddaughters at the fort in St. Augustine FL



Second cousins about 10 years ago.


The many overlooks on the Blue Ridge Parkway aren't having as much traffic this year, as some of the road has still not been repaired.

Sharing with Sepia Saturday this week, where a young man doesn't look particularly happy sitting on the fake balustrade.



A studio photo of my youngest son at around 3. At least he isn't posed on a fake parapet! 

Today's quote:

When we’re feeling lonely, we’ve lost the idea that we’re all one, and none of us are separate from the whole

Saturday, June 21, 2025

Getting there is the journey

 A couple of "before and after" shots...

Starting with Rte. 66 across America:



TAMIAMI Trail (U.S. Highway 41) opened Feb 1, 1929

Actually US 41 across Florida to Miami, is pretty dull.


A postcard of the Western North Carolina railroad between Old Fort and Black Mountain!

My mother, holding the Keystone motion picture camera (8 mm) next to a train which might have carried her grandfather, Charles Herman Miller, in Texas as the passenger conductor. The train was in a museum in Missouri when we visited in the 1950s.

When Great grandfather Charles Herman Miller got married back in 1896, there was this notice given in the Houston Post.


The Houston Post Oct 30, 1896 - perhaps a bit fallible, since Charles Herman Miller came from Germany as a child (unknown how old) and no information has yet been found on his parents. One story is that he stowed away on a ship to Galveston (a big port at the time). Perhaps he had foster parents in Bellville, TX.  Or this was convenient...since the marriage was in Hillsboro TX where the bride's family lived.. quite a way from Houston. But it does give him membership in a secret benevolent order, as a Knight of Pythias. 

Wikipedia lets us know some vague facts about the order...

Membership has historically been open to males in good health who believe in a Supreme Being. Maimed individuals were not admitted until 1875. Members are accepted by blackball ballot.

A member must be at least 18 years of age, and must take the following oath:

I declare upon honor that I believe in a Supreme Being, that I am not a professional gambler, or unlawfully engaged in the wholesale or retail sale of intoxicating liquors or narcotics, and that I believe in the maintenance of the order and the upholding of constituted authority in the government in which I live. Moreover, I declare upon honor that I am not a Communist or Fascist; that I do not advocate nor am I a member of any organization that advocates the overthrow of the Government of the Country of which I am a Citizen, by force or violence or other unlawful means; and that I do not seek by force or violence to deny to other persons their rights under the laws of such country.

By the end of the so-called "Golden Age of Fraternalism" in the early 1920s, the order had nearly a million members. By 1979, however, this number had declined to fewer than 200,000.

In 1892, the Supreme Lodge ruled that the work of the order would only be conducted in English. This upset some members who were accustomed to using German. After this ruling was reiterated at the Supreme Lodges of 1894 and 1895, a number of German-speaking Pythians split off and formed the Improved Order, Knights of Pythias at a convention in Indianapolis in June 1895. The new order was reportedly not very popular, and a movement toward reconciliation occurred a few years later.


The fact that enough Knights of Pythias wanted a German language organization for a while at least, would have been attractive to Great Grandfather Herman Miller, since that was apparently his native language.


Knights of Pythias Castle, Houston, Texas (postcard, circa 1898)

Two other interesting documents are on my Ancestry file on Great Grandpa Miller:


On Sept 11, 1937 he applied for US citizenship, stating his birthday as July 18, 1868.


But wait, he again applied on Oct. 9, 1939.


This time he had witnesses, Willis E. Long, and Jack E. Adams both of San Antonio TX. I would imagine this time there was more caution about Germans becoming US citizens, since Germany was beginning the events that led to WW II.

So finally this widower at age 68, and then age 70 by 1937 may have become a citizen of the USA. 

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For this week's Sepia Saturday post

I love riding through the mountains...much as this person did so many years ago!


Sunday, June 15, 2025

Father's Day memories of ...

 Thomas Joseph Naglieri...my daughter-in-law Michelle's father.




In blue is my daughter-in-law's mother, Joanne, with her husband, Thomas Naglieri. Jerry Fiori on far left is Joanne's cousin, with his wife, Liz.



I would need help from Michelle (my daughter-in-law) as to who all of these relatives are. The man in the middle in red striped shirt is her father, Thomas. She is leaning forward over his back, with high curly hair, wearing white. Her mother, Joanne is right above her with short dark hair. I don't know who the two little children are he's holding. **

** UPDATE: Michelle gave me some identifications. Back from left to right: Grandfather Joe Fiori, John Nichols, wife Debbie, Joey, Joanne, Grandma Rose Fiori, Vicki (Joe's second wife.) Children are Michelle's cousins Justin and Stephanie.


For a man full of life, Tom was killed in a boating accident when he was only 56 on April 17, 1994. Michelle was almost 26 and living in New York City. Her parents were living in Greenwich CT. I think the publication refers to the Greenwich newspaper where Tom worked for 10 years.


Michelle speaks so fondly of her father whenever he's mentioned. You can tell they had a special relationship. I wish I knew more about Tom Naglieri.

Tom and Joanne had friendships with another couple who lived nearby. Gerhart (Gerry) Kurth and his wife Carol Jaroszewski Kurth. The story I was told was that the husbands had an agreement, that if either would die, and one of their wives might die, they would take care of the other's family. Perhaps one or the other of them was sick at the time. Gerry and Carol had more children than Tom and Joanne (who had 2). I can't find more details about Gerry and Carol's family, except the two sons who died - as living relatives on Ancestry are kept private.

Anyway, Carol Kurth died in August of 1994, a few months after Tom Naglieri. Gerry's address for the next few years was in Hawaii.

In Oct 1997 Joanne Naglieri and Gerry Kurth got married. 

Michelle keeps calling him Gerry, which is normal enough for a step father of a grown woman. Joanne kept her Naglieri name as Tom's widow. My son Russ and Michelle were married 25 years ago, in 2000.

Joanne and Gerry now live in Florida, having sold the family home in Connecticut several years ago. 


Joanne's wedding to Gerry, with her daughter, Michelle 






Sunday, June 8, 2025

Another artist in the family (by marriage)

 

Early Moonlight Naragansett Bay 1877. by Arthur Quartley


I have a great times two grandmother, Ellen Ann Delameter Webb (born 25 JAN 1842, New York or Alsace-Lorraine France, died 15 JUL 1876, Clinton, DeWitt County TX) . She was on my mother's side of my tree.

She was born in New York, then marred in Texas, where she and her husband raised their 8 children, though only 4 lived to adulthood. Her husband, Samuel J. Webb fought in the Civil War.

On the death certificate of one of her children, the informant said she'd been born in Alsace-Lorraine France. But that may be simply a fabrication since the artist, Arthur Quartley (her husband) had been born in Paris France.

But I'm getting ahead of the story.

Ellen Ann is in several New York census' with her parents, William Delameter (1816-1881) and Sarah J. Lester Delameter (1822-1898). And sometimes it looks as if her name were Ann Ellen.

 That other woman Ann E. apparently didn't move to Texas, and did live to marry in New Yrok, after our Ellen Ann had died and was buried in a Texas cemetery. So maybe it's Ellen Ann who had a few fabrications in her life.

I get very riled up about this. And if I hadn't found Arthur Quartley married to Ellen Ann's sister, I wouldn't have bothered about it.

My line is through Ellen and Samuel's eldest son, Leroy (L. F./Leary) Francis Webb (1857-1921). I've written about him earlier.

Ellen Ann Webb, wife of S. J. Webb, born Jan 25, 1842, died July 15, 1876. Her headstone.


Samuel James Webb, born Jan 28, 1827, Died Aug 15, 1877. Husband of Ellen Ann Delameter Webb.
Located in The Old Clinton Cemetery, DeWitt County, TX, pictured below.


The most exciting part of Ellen Ann's life was her moving to Texas  and marrying Samuel Webb, at the age of 14. She had just passed her birthday a month ago, but there are Texas records of the marriage. I wonder how she lied about her age. Not to mention, how the heck did she get to Texas on her own?
Her family was still in New York, if indeed they were her family. 

OK we do know about her children's births in Texas. After L. F. in 1857 there were three girls who didn't live very long. Next came a daughter, Phinnie Flore Webb in 1868 who lived till 1902. 
Then came Joe Friend Webb who became a preacher (1870-1928), then Daisy Ellen Webb (1873-1941) and then Samuel James Webb Jr who lived just 16 years (1876-1892).

No, none of Ellen Ann Webb's children married Mr. Quartley the artist. It was her sister!

Laura Louise Delameter was born in 1848 and died in 1881. She met and married Arthur Quartley (1839-1886) in about 1864. But she died suddenly at age 38, and he died just five years later. Their youngest son also died just 2 years after her death. The three older children, Adele, Grace and Arthur Jr. lived much longer lives.

Wikipedia actually has a site about Arthur Quartley Sr. and includes the painting shown at the top of this post. It says:

Quartley moved to New York City in 1875. New York at that time had become a premier center for notable painters. From there he painted seascapes of Long Island bays, New York Harbor, the New Hampshire Isle of Shoals, and Naragansett Bay in Rhode Island.

The Hudson River School was waning at this point, so that other groups were forming, among them the Tilers, of whom Quartley was a founding member. The Tilers was a group of artists and writers, that included Winslow HomerWilliam Merritt Chase, and Augustus Saint Gaudens. They met frequently to exchange ideas and decorate ceramic tiles in promotion of their works. They also took excursions for painting, such as the 1878 pilgrimage to Eastern Long Island by Quartley and ten others. On that trip Quartley painted Seascape and also a blue painted tile of an introspective girl at the beach. The journalist and philanthropist John W. McCoy promoted the careers of Quartley and of his friend, the sculptor William H. Rinehart.

In the year 1876 Quartley was elected to the National Academy.

How am I related to him?

He's the husband of my great grand-aunt.

Laura Louise Delameter Quartey - as posted on Find a  Grave.



Monday, June 2, 2025

Cousin Connection Number 2

 There it was in black and white...

and then I got up from my desk to stretch my legs (at least once an hour, but I think I fail at that)...

and I couldn't pin it down, which son married his mother's brother's daughter?

OK I know it's the same family which I talked about for Memorial Day, General John Archer Elmore's family (1762-1834)

In one publication by the DAR (Daughters of the American Revolution) he is listed as someone's ancestor, married to "2nd wife," Anna Martin. (Note, I don't always find the DAR records to be accurate.)

My records are based on about 13 other records saying his second wife was Nancy Ann Martin Elmore. (1786-1855) So it's ok to call Nancy Ann by Anna, apparently for those descendants. I'll stay with Nancy.

One of the General's and Nancy's sons was John Archer Elmore Jr. 1808-1878 (also known as Captain).

Captain Elmore Jr. married Laura Maria Martin Elmore (1817-1877). How is she related to his mother?

Nancy Ann Martin Elmore's parents were Major General John Martin (1749-1813) and Elizabeth Dickerson Terry Martin (1760-1800) 

Nancy Ann Martin Elmore had a brother (a Judge) William Dickerson Martin (1789-1835) who married Mary Harrietta Williamson Martin (1791-1824). Their daughter was Laura Maria Martin Elmore (1817-1877).

So Captain Elmore married a first cousin. I won't say anything about their living in Alabama. They had eight children.

And the descendants who've written comments on my old blog included Patricia Elmore a descendant of Henry Marshall Elmore (1816-1879), another son of General John A. Elmore. She contributed that "John Archer Elmore married the niece of Supreme Court Justice John Marshall, Nancy Martin." I haven't put that connection onto my tree yet.

Then I got a comment from John Rugely Elmore, also a descendant of Henry M. who wanted to have his nieces and nephews know of the honor in the family, since some relative was "slandering the good name of his late father to his grandchildren." I hope his efforts helped.

Another comment was a gold mine, from a person who owns the antique table that belonged to General J. A. Elmore...and he's not related at all. But "Old School_Man" sent several photos of the table and the inscriptions on the table along, which I added! (See my post on Memorial Day this year for these comments and more!)

These comments were made between 2013 and 2019. At that time I was thrilled that people were interested in my blog, apparently by searching the name of General John Archer Elmore.

My line isn't through Nancy Elmore, the second wife, but through his first wife, Mary Ann Sarah Saxon Elmore (1771-1804).

And my relation to him? Ancestry does the work for me...He's my...

 "maternal grandfather of the husband of the mother-in-law of my great grand-aunt." 

 It would be fun to put the names to each of those relations, but I think I've typed enough for today. 

Photos?

The General

The Captain (John Archer Jr.)


John Archer III.

Today's quote:

Simply going through the motions of life puts us directly in the passenger seat — when we should be in the driver’s seat.





Saturday, May 31, 2025

The cousins married...

 Updated June 2, 2025


Great Uncle Chauncey Sweet was a banker in Galveston. He and his wife had a huge house where my grandmother and her cousins visited frequently. As a matter of fact in one census year my teenage grandmother and her sister were included in their household as well as their own family's home.



Known as "Auntie," Ada Pulsifer Granger Sweet (Mrs. Chauncey Sweet) had been orphaned at the beginning of the Civil War, and she and her sister (my great grandmother) were raised in the homes of her mother's sisters. That was how she grew up with Chauncey Sweet, who was the son in one of those households. 

They married, and the family apparently approved, or at least didn't make a public fuss. They had no children of their own. When Auntie died at the ripe old age of 71, Chauncey at age 67 moved to California and married a year later to Genevieve Frazier (age 41). Genevieve was  from Tyler TX, a stenographer and had been quite athletic when in school back in Texas.


Unfortunately nobody saved the names below...so we don't know which sophomore was Genevieve Frasier. Do you have a guess?  ** See note below!

** Thanks to fellow blogger, Mike Brubaker, here's the rest of the yearbook posting:




But in 1911 when she was a Senior at the Tyler Texas High School, she and other athletic senior girls challenged girls in other grades to a track meet at 4 am! It was so unusual that the San Francisco Call and Post gave it a short article. 


Though the print is pretty bad, Genevieve won 6 of the events herself.

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Then there's the one piece of art which has been handed down since Great Uncle Chauncey gave it to my Grandfather, who gave it to my father, and thus I inherited it. I blogged about The Laughing Dogs.







A famous Chicago cartoonist sent Uncle Chauncey this cartoon...kind of a spoof on the country dog with the sophisticated city dogs making fun of him...perhaps that was how Uncle Chauncey appeared to the artist. It does have an inscription by Dick Outcault. 

 
And though one of my family members thinks she'll get rich by selling it, it's just a print on rather poor newsprint paper. But the fact that an artist dedicated it to an Uncle may influence later generations.

My own Uncle Jimmy became an artist. And his son, John is a gifted musician.

I called myself an artist, but didn't ever really make a living with it...though it makes me happy still (sharing what I've created!)

It's interesting to learn as much as this about ancestors!

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Sharing with Sepia Saturday. I may not be sharing a radio voice, but all bloggers these days are similar to being voices that are continuing while many have become silent. Much like our paper newspapers are no longer out there. 


And just because I had nothing better to do, I found another ancestor who married his cousin. Soon!

Today's quote:

Something precious is lost if we rush headlong into the details of life without pausing for a moment to pay homage to the mystery of life and the gift of another day.

Kent Nerburn




Monday, May 26, 2025

Some headstones to remind me

 of the lives of my ancestors for Memorial Day 2025.


The Ross family had 12 children of their own. And they also fostered my grandfather and his little sister, who were also raised by their widowed mother some of the time.

The interesting things are the relationships to my grandfather, George Elmore Rogers.

My grandfather was the son of W. Sam Rogers who was a war hero who died young, suffering from his time in Mexico fighting for Texas. 


The history of John A. Elmore is interesting, so I'm just going to copy and paste it here, after reposting the original several years ago.

Gen. John Archer Elmore 

A repost from:

Sunday, September 29, 2013

Editor's NOTE: I just (2019) received another comment about Gen. Elmore, and have included all the comments that were posted since my original blog entry in 2013...obviously they are listed on google or somewhere! I think at that time I didn't have this "family tree" blog, so I'm bringing this one over here where it belongs. And thanks to one of the comments, a friend has sent me some photos of a table with Gen. J. A. Elmore's name inscribed on the bottom...so they are included at the end of this post!

Born on 21 Aug 1762 in Prince Edward County, Virginia, this Revolutionary War hero died on 24 Apr 1834 in Wetumpka, Autauga County, Alabama, age 71.

Gen John Archer Elmore 1762-1834

Shall I tell you how I'm related first, or his story?

My father's middle name was Elmore.  He never told me (and I did ask) who he was named after.  Well, for him he just said he was named after his father, because he was Junior.  So how did his father get Elmore for his middle name, when there were no Elmores anywhere in his family ancestry?

Go WAAAAY back, and John Archer Elmore is actually our ancestor through a cousin.  (His descendent married the sister of one of my ancestors)

He had 19 children, which means lots of people are his descendants!  Thank heavens they had 2 mothers. His first wife's third child, Sophia Saxon Elmore at 15, married George Washington Ross (age 31 and a doctor).  They lived in Laurens, South Carolina, and then Mississippi. Their grandson, John Elmore Ross, married Alice Luella Rogers, (see Here for more on Alice Luella Rogers Ross) the daughter of my 3X great grandfather, George Washington Rogers.  So we're cousins, several times removed, because the Elmore Ross line went off in another direction...no blood coming my way.  (Incidentally, my post about Alice Rogers Ross isn't entirely accurate!)
(NOTE from author in 2025 - (Alice) Luella Roger Ross was my great grandaunt. I heard my grandfather, George Elmore Rogers Sr., speak of at least 4 of the Ross cousins as adults, who had correspondences or phone contact with him. They all seemed to use their middle names, so it took a while for me to connect these people with what my grandfather (Poppy) had said about them.)

So why were these people in the Rogers family named after this Revolutionary War hero that was a cousin's ancestor after all?  Probably because the matriarchs of the family wanted them to.  We have traditionally had strong women in the Rogers family.  

And my grandfather's best friends were the Ross's, who lived in the same areas many times, but did not raise my grandfather and his sister as I thought earlier (they probably lived with their mother, a widow some of their childhoods).  For all I know some of the Ross children were named after famous Rogers ancestors.  I don't think I'll chase that story however.

OK, you've patiently waited to hear about General Elmore.

Here is the way ancestor searches turn out: backward.  We start with where he remains, his tombstone.  From Mrs. P. H. Mell in (1904) Transactions, of the Alabama Historical Society, Vol. iv, pp. 541-2.
 Elmore county was named in honor of Gen. Elmore. He was deservedly popular for his "candor, good sense and sociability."
He was buried in the old family burying ground at the old homestead, "Huntington," in Elmore county. The following inscription is upon his tombstone:
In Memory of Gen. John Archer Elmore, who was born in Prince Edward County, Va., August the 21st, 1762, and died in Autauga County, Ala., April 24th, 1834, aged 71 yrs. 8 mos. & 3 days. He was a soldier of the Revolution in the Virginia Line and afterwards a member of the Legislature of So. Ca., and a General in the militia. He was a member of the Legislature of Alabama and filled various other offices of Honor and Trust in both States. He was an affectionate husband, a kind and indulgent father, a humane master, A devoted friend, and a patriotic citizen.
He entered the Revolutionary service, a mere lad, in Greene's command in the Virginia line; was with him in his tour through the Carolinas, and with him at the surrender at Yorktown. This is shown by the archives in Washington; O'Neal's Bench and Bar of South Carolina, vol. ii, pp. 85, 88, and Brewer's Alabama, p. 109. After the Revolution he settled in Laurens district, South Carolina, and resided there many years, during which time he was often a member of the legislature. He moved to Autauga county, Alabama, in 1819 and served one term in the house of representatives from this county.
His first wife was Miss Saxon, by whom he had two sons: Hon. Franklin H. Elmore, of South Carolina, who succeeded Mr. Calhoun in the United States senate, and Benjamin F. Elmore, treasurer of South Carolina. His second wife, Miss Ann Martin, was a member of the famous Martin family of South Carolina, and descended also from the Marshall family of Virginia, and from Lieutenant Nathaniel Terry, of Virginia. By this second marriage there were five sons and several daughters."
Mrs. Mell didn't have all his children in her list, see below for more details of them.

In his later life:
C M Stanley article in The Alabama Journal, Sept 13, 1959: 
"He removed to Alabama in 1819, the same year the state was admitted to the Union, settling in Autauga County and in 1821 served in the Alabama legislature. When Elmore County was created, largely out of Autauga County, the new county was named for General Elmore as was the town of Elmore in the new county."

Continuing backward, here's more on how he came to Alabama...with some different dates given.
From "Elmore Family -p. 17:
Gen. John A. and Betsy --  "Reuben Jourdan came to Alabama about 1812 to 1814, with his father, sisters and brothers and children, and was followed next year by Gen. John Archer Elmore and family." 

Pickett, from Alabama also give this picture of the Justice of the courts:
"The legislature was exceedingly anxious to see the laws enforced; and, for
that purpose, selected magistrates from among the most respectable and
prominent men throughout the State. They discharged the same duties which
the Judges of the County Courts had done previous to the adoption of the
present Probate system, and as was the practice of Virginia. A few of those
now selected must be mentioned merely to show the determination of our then
infant State, to give tone and dignity to the administration of the laws,
even in inferior courts. For the county of Autauga, for instance, John A.
Elmore,
John Armstrong, Robert Gaston, James Jackson and William R. Pickett
were elected magistrates.
    General John A. Elmore, one of these justices, was a native of South
Carolina, of the legislature of which State he had often been a respectable
member. Not long after his removal to Alabama, he represented the county of
Autauga in our legislature which then sat at Cahawba. He was a man of
firmness and much good sense, and always delivered his opinions, even in
common conversation, in a distinct and loud voice, with that candor and
honesty which characterized his conduct through life. He had a commanding
appearance, was large in person, and, altogether, an exceedingly fine
looking man. He delighted in the sports of the chase, being a most
successful and spirited hunter, and an agreeable companion in the many camp-
hunts in which he engaged with his neighbors and friends. Towards the close
of his life, we remember that he presented a dignified and venerable
appearance, and we saw him preside as chairman of several large and
exciting meetings in the town of Montgomery during the days of nullifi-
cation."(1)

(1) Albert James Pickett, History of Alabama and Incidentally of Georgia
and Mississippi, from the Earliest Period, (Birmingham Book and Magazine Co.: Birmingham, AL, 1962), pp. 662-663. 

Another mini-biography gives this family information:
Biography of John Archer Elmore - Autauga/Elmore Co.'s, AL
John Archer Elmore. An officer of the American Revolution, he was born
August 21, 1762, in Prince Edward County, Virginia, and died April 24, 1834,
in Autauga, now Elmore County. He was the son of Archelas and Susannah
(Morris) Elmore, the former a Quaker. He was a grandson of Thomas and Cicely
(Ellison) Elmore, of New Kent County, Virginia. General Elmore entered the
Continental Army while still a youth, and served under General Greene.
    General Elmore settled in Laurens District, South Carolina, after the
Revolution, resided there for many years and served in the legislature. In
1819 he removed to Alabama, settling in Autauga County, and in 1821,
represented the County in the legislature. When Autauga County was
subdivided the new county was named in his honor. The station of that name
being also named for his family.
    General Elmore was married to (1) Mary Ann Sarah Saxon, on March 1,
1788. He married (2) on March 14, 1805, to Mary Martin, a descendant of the
noted Martin family of South Carolina, also of the Marshall family of
Virginia, and of Lieutenant Nathaniel Terry, of Virginia.
    Children by his first wife were: l. Benjamin F., treasurer of South
Carolina, married Sarah Aurora Brevard. 2. Narcissa. 3. Sophia Saxon,
married George Ross
. 4. Charlotte Perry, married Abner Crenshaw. 5. Franklin
Harper, who succeeded Calhoun in the U. S. Senate, married Harriet Chestnut.
    By his second wife, General Elmore was the father of: 6. Elizabeth S.,
married Dixon H. Lewis. 7. Sarah Terry, married Benjamin Fitzpatrick.
8. John Archer, married Laura Maria Martin. 9. Morris Martin. 10. William
Augustus, married (1) Mary Ann Morrison, (2) Julia Minor. 11. Luther Alfred.
12. Henry Marshall, married Elizabeth Harris. 13. Laurence Ludlow. 14.
Physick Rush, married Susan T. Nesbitt. 15. Winfield Scott. 16. Infant. 17.
James Scott. 18. Albert Standhope, married Mary Jane Taylor. 19. Ann
Harriet, married Joseph T. Hearn.

[Source: Dictionary of Alabama Biography, Volume III, page 558] 
 Sorry, I don't have the war records, which probably tell all about the battles in which Gen. Elmore took part.  That will have to be for other historians to research.

OK, this record is my supplement to what's on Ancestry.com, and perhaps will help me or my descendents find the correct information. 






Gen. J.A.Elmore table in the home of Larry Carlson


 

7 comments:

  1. I am the great, great, great granddaughter of John Archer Elmore. I found your account of how his name entered into your family quite interesting. My lineage to JA Elmore is this: John Archer Elmore -> Henry Marshall Elmore -> William Augustus Elmore -> John Rugely Elmore -> William Augustus Elmore -> Patricia Elmore (me). Thanks for posting this.

  2. Hi Patricia: So glad to know we're cousins, of whatever number removed! Thanks for commenting on a post that was a long time ago. I had to go read it again (at my age I don't remember all these details). And reading it again reminded me how many ancestors I still have to research and add for the benefit of my own descendents!

  3. Hi, I hope you're doing well. I wanted to let you know that I discovered that John Archer Elmore married the niece of Supreme Court Justice John Marshall, Nancy Martin. Together they had many children, if won I'm descended from Henry Marshall Elmore. We are also related to Thomas Jefferson through the Randolphs sisters. Thomas J and John M were cousins.

  4. Thanks so much for your comment on my post. I continue to look into my ancestors, and update my blog as new information comes available. I'm so sorry not to have answered your comment all this time, as blogger never sent it to me (as it used to do once) so I could moderate it and post it to the blog. I'll be looking into your questions in the near future. Barb Rogers

  5. Greetings, cousins! Excellent page you've made here, Mrs. Rogers.
    I am John Rugeley Elmore, son of Thomas R, son of John R, son of John R, son of William A, son of Henry M., son of Gen John A, himself.
    Always thought that was the coolest middle name, "Archer", just sounds cool, but maybe that's the little boy in me creeping out, lol.
    I'm so glad to see people taking an interest in the family and our place in history.
    I am trying to get my nieces and nephews interested in our ancestors so they can understand their place historically, and ideally, derive some honor or self esteem from the achievements and esteem earned by those who came before us.

    An ex-member of my family has been slandering the good name of my late father to his grandchildren. So I am on quest to reinvigorate the pride (or at least, interest) in and of the Elmore clan that comes from honorable, upstanding citizenship, service to God and country, and charity and good nature of our ancestors significant enough to be mentioned virtually anytime any of them are mentioned during or after their lifetime by official, respected historians.
    Cousin (Aunt?) Patricia, I remember your dad. I was just a kid when I was around him so I don't remember much, but Thank You for the bit you wrote bout T. Jefferson. I had no idea we were related to him as well.
    Mrs. Rogers, you could possibly find some new visitors to your page, as I am going to send links to my nieces and nephews. And, thank you again for taking the time to, not only keep the documentation of our family fresh, but also for bringing it alive!
    Peace, joy and love, family. May Grace shine down upon you, brighter than the sun, today and each tomorrow and for all the days to come!

    PS: I never check my gmail so my usable email address is Landman0081@yahoo.com. Please, feel free to write, anytime, about anything.

  6. Greetings Elmore Clan

    I wanted to reach out to you all and let you know we are honored to have a family heirloom...namely, a round table that used to belong to Gen J A Elmore. His name is literally scribed in the underside of the table - and it's leaf. It's a truly amazing piece from the Empire Era - and means a lot to us. I was researching his name today and as I learned more and more about General Elmore, I was more and more honored to have such a piece of history in my own home. In fact, it was this research that led us into this Blog. What a pleasant surprise. We are not related to him but I wanted you to know how much it means to have such a historic piece from a true Revolutionary War Era Hero. We reside near Louisville, Ky. Knowing the General was laid to rest in Alabama, I thought it would be of some interest knowing how far his table traveled.

    I just opened a blooger account - hopefully you all can see this message. If you are interested in contacting me for pics or more info, please feel free to do so at lecjr55@gmail.com (primary email acct). I wish there was a way I could attach a picture for you to see (probably is but well beyond my limited knowledge of blogger).

    I wish you all the very best and tip my hat to the entire clan. To come from such a lineage is truly a blessing.





    1. HI there "Old School Man" and welcome to this blog which still is out there generating comments. You have a piece of history in that table. I'm glad that you've read about John Elmore, and hope you enjoy reading about all my other ancestors! I find it so interesting to write what I can find, then change it as new information is found that was buried somewhere for a long time and just came to light.