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REMEMBER: In North America, the month of September 1752 was exceptionally short, skipping 11 days, when the Gregorian Calendar was adapted from the old Julian one, which didn't have leap year days.

Tuesday, April 9, 2019

A grandfather who wasn't

I have my relatives' and my ancestors' birthdays on my calendar giving me hints each year.  And one that came up for April 9, 1790 was John Thomas Conn...supposedly the father of Hannah Conn Booth, my ancestor.

Ah, that's unfortunately not true.  I have made few trips to cemeteries out of town, but I did go visit the Norman graves in Kentucky a few years ago on my way home from Indiana to North Carolina.  Isaac Norman was the father of Mary "Polly" Norman Conn, who was John Thomas' wife....and not the mother of Hannah Conn Booth.

My great times 4 grandfather was apparently James A. Conn (1794-1828) and his wife was Nancy Erwin Conn (1795-1840).

My cousin (descendant of Richard Booth (Hannah's son's first wife, thus only a half-cousin?) Cheryl Richardson has done more research than I have, and followed the line from the Booth Family Bible to get the James and Nancy Conn parents of Hannah.

So in non-celebration of a grandfather who isn't, I'll celebrate the birth (unknown exact date) of my real great times 4 grandfather, James A. Conn, born between 1780-1794, either in Virginia or North Carolina.  

My post in Feb. 2018 said:

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Those Kentucky and Indiana (and NC) years for the Conns

James A. Conn @1780-1826, was one of the 9 children born to Elisabeth Alexander Conn 1760-1845, and her husband, William Henry Conn 1760-1836, who had been a "Private, Calvary and Infantry" in the Revolutionary War.

A re-enactor,  not William Conn, my great times 5 grandfather!

Father William had been born in New Jersey, and Elisabeth in North Carolina, which is where they marred in 1778.  This is recorded in North Carolina Marriage Records 1741-2004, Tryon and Lincoln Counties, Dec. 6, 1778, page 33.

James A. Conn was born approximately in 1780, having a pretty short life till 1826 or 1828 (or at latest 1830.)  His birth was in North Carolina, (Lincoln County probably,) while some of his siblings were born in Russell County, Virginia. ..or maybe they didn't know and just said that on census reports.


Lincoln County NC is known for a Revolutionary war incident...

The Battle of Ramsour's Mill took place on June 20, 1780 in present-day Lincolnton, North Carolina, during the British campaign to gain control of the southern colonies in the American Revolutionary War. The number of fighters on each side of the battle is still an issue of contention, but Loyalist militiamen (many of them German Palatine emigrants and settlers in the local area) outnumbered Patriot militia and had captured a group of Patriots who they were planning to hang on the morning of June 20.
The one to two-hour battle during the foggy morning of June 20 did not involve any regular army forces from either side and was literally fought between family, friends, and neighbors with muskets sometimes being used as clubs because of a lack of ammunition. Numerous cases of fratricide occurred during the battle. William Simpson, a patriot scout, rushed to the battle to kill his brother Reuben, and Peter Costner, a loyalist, was killed by his brother Thomas who buried his sibling's corpse after the fight.[2] Despite being outnumbered, the Patriot militia defeated the Loyalists.[3]
The battle was significant in that it lowered the morale of Loyalists in the south, weakening their support of the British.
James Conn married April 6 1810, to Nancy Erwin  (Ancestry.com. Kentucky, Compiled Marriages, 1802-1850 [database on-line].)  This wedding was in Henry County, Kentucky, the first record of his move there.  His father (William Conn) has a child born between 1790 and 1794 in Kentucky, James' sister Rachael.  However the next 2 sisters were born back in North Carolina, though their dates are approximate also.  So I think it's also possible that their birth places are somewhat flexible as well, though they were probably given on a census at some future time.

And in 1810 James and Nancy Conn first appear in a census, in Henry County, Kentucky, having a household of just 2, to show the newlyweds have set up housekeeping on their own.  Henry County Kentucky was formed out of Shelby County in 1798. Shelby County was the location of many of the other Conn ancestors located on my former family tree for Hannah Conn Booth.  But I don't find evidence (yet) of any cousin connections.


James and Nancy's child Hannah Conn (to marry William Booth later) was born in Henry County KY on April 13, 1819.  Her daughter, Annie Booth Attaway lived until 1948, and the link about her (Hannah Conn's) grave  (Find a Grave HERE) states she was born in Henry County KY, and died in Hillsboro County, Texas  in 1885.  This entry at Find a Grave, was entered by my third half (?) cousin Cheryl Richardson, who states James and Nancy Conn were her (Hannah's) parents (posted 2009). Until this week I had not read anything that substantiated this to me, so I've been mistaken all this time apparently.


Nancy Conn, widow of James, is listed as head of household in the Census of 1830 on Henry County KY and 1840 in Jackson County, IN, the last document of Nancy's life that we have at this time. There are no names listed, but a family listing of 9 people in 1830 and 11 people in 1840.

Jackson County IN is also the county where Hannah married William Lewis Booth in 1843 (a copy of the marriage registry is on my Ancestry site.) In my old Conn family tree, I've never figured out how she could have been there when the rest of the "John Thomas Conn" (not my ancestor after all!) family was moving to Texas from Missouri, so this helps immensely in the location problems.

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Now to add...

Here's a bit of the post from last year about (not my grandfather) John Thomas Conn...and his family.  I'm pretty sure someone in that family is still a link to the Conns that I AM descended from!

John T. Conn fought in the War of 1812. Which side he fought on is a matter of dispute. According to some Conn family records, he fought on the side of the British and went to Canada with Proctor & Elliott. He was in the Battle of Thames where the Indian Chief Tecumseh was killed. He has descendants who believe he fought with the Kentuckians on the side of the United States. More than one John Conn fought with the Kentuckians, one of whom is listed as a surgeon. This researcher does not have any documentation of his service in the War of 1812 for either of the adversaries.
John T. Conn's father Thomas Conn and his [John's] brothers Francis Conn [1793-1849] and Hugh Lee Conn IV [1797- 1814 or 1833], fought in the War of 1812 with the Kentuckians. According to the Ralls County, Mo. History, Hugh Lee Conn IV was wounded and died of his wounds in 1814. Some Conn descendants record him as dying in 1833. He was born 14 July 1797. He was only 15 when he fought in the War of 1812. Young lads fought in the wars of that era so his age is not unusual. There is a pension application filed by the widow of Thomas Conn, documenting his participation in the War of 1812.
Thomas Conn was born 15 Nov. 1762 in Loudon Co., Va.  He was the seventh child of eight children born to Hugh Lee II and Mary Trammell Conn. He married Mildred Ann Conley 10 March 1787 in Taylorsville, Jefferson Co., Ky (same locale as Bullitt and Shelby Counties, Ky.) According to my grandmother Mary Drucilla Conn Fogle , Thomas Conn fought in the American Revolution and was at Valley Forge. This has not been documented. 
 SOURCE: Biography of John Thomas Conn by Velma Fogle, Great great-grand-daughter of John T. Conn,Great-grand daughter of Hugh Lee Conn V, Grand daughter of Mary Drucilla Conn Fogle


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Looking forward to hearing from you! If you leave your email then others with similar family trees can contact you. Just commenting falls into the blogger dark hole; I'll gladly publish what you say just don't expect responses.