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Showing posts with label Webb family. Show all posts
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Monday, June 20, 2022

Happy birthday to Great Grandmother Annie Elizabeth Williams Webb

 Annie Elizabeth Williams Webb...my great grandmother, who I never knew. She died in July of the year I was born in August, and because her son (my mother's father) had died many years before, I doubt that she'd kept in touch with my mother's life. My mother never mentioned her, nor her father.

Annie had been born 20 June 1862, in Columbus Missouri though her parents lived mostly in Montgomery County, MO where her father was a farmer. However, he had gone off to fight for the Union in 1861 and she was born in 1862, so perhaps her mother, Dorcas White Williams, had been living in Columbus, where this birth was recorded.

Annie was the 7th child of 8 born to the William T. Williams family. Only O. R. was born later in 1866. The Williams family moved from Missouri to Texas around 1870, give or take a few years. Her mother had a strange census listing in 1870 of living alone in a boarding house, under her maiden name, and performing as a domestic servant. I noticed that one of Dorcas' brothers, Caleb White, lived in that same town (Upper Loutre in Montgomery County MO) with the post office in Danville. He was the miller in the town, and by the 1870 census record lived with his wife and 5 children in his household. His census was taken 22 Sept. 1870, while hers was taken 29 Sept, 1870. There was also the Loutre River nearby...were they starting their journey to Texas perhaps by river?

There is no information about the rest of the family on the 1870 census record for Dorcas White...nor  her 4 year old son and Annie at 8 years old.  I wonder (yet another conjecture) if the family had packed up for moving to Texas, and was in this small town just waiting for some other immigrant families, and Dorcas just helped out in that boarding house. Or perhaps they all left for Texas earlier, and she had been too sick to travel. Or maybe she was against the move. For whatever reason she was living in that boarding house, I'm still left wondering why she used her maiden name. Who would know that, except her family of origin and herself?

Another noted event in or before 1870, was the death of Henry White, the father of Caleb and Dorcas. At least 6 of his children were still alive at that time. He had farmed somewhere in Montgomery County MO since the early pioneers arrived before 1833.  His wife outlived him, dying in 1885.

Before the next census where Annie appears, in 1880, she has also moved to Texas, and married at 15 years of age in 1877. She doesn't appear in any 1870 census records that I can find. Her husband was Leroy (L.F.) Webb, who had been born in Texas. See here for more about him, and the family, but I'll catch up with his life while married to Annie.


I'm including a "story" I just submitted to L. F. Webb's Ancestry page...about the details of the photo above.

The original photo has been transferred into a printable newspaper version, with the usually digital spots. But if it's enlarged enough, you can read the details across the porch roof facade.

"Dealer of General Merchandise" and below that...

"Country Produce Bought and Sold"

And now to look at the people...about 32 men, and 5 children. One of the men is wearing a white apron...either a butcher or someone just working in the store.

My guess is the man in center, somewhat taller, and somewhat separate from the others around him, would be L. F. 

Slightly to his right (our left) is a shorter man at his shoulder. In front of him stand two children...wearing dresses, perhaps girls. The other children include 2 boys on the roof of the porch by the window, and one in a white shirt, second to far right with the man having his hand on his shoulder.

Note the windows are all open. Summer in Texas gets very hot. But the custom was for men to have on shirts, a vest, and perhaps a coat and even tie for a special occasion.

In Texas all the men wear their hat almost all the time, just like cowboy boots, so they can ride horses to get places.

And remember, nobody used deodorant in those days, nor even bathed often. So the layers of clothing might have been uncomfortable, but they might have soaked up some of the sweat that inevitably would have occurred.

I also would try to guess if the children are those of Leroy Webb's. If the taller one in front of him were indeed a girl, he had 6 year old Clara Bell Webb, and the smaller might have been my grandfather, Albert J. Webb at 3 years old.  Of course his older sons would have wanted to be in the photo too. James Eugene would have been 16 in 1894, and John Leroy would have been 14. Maybe they are the two boys on the roof of the porch, one of whom is the only male not wearing a hat!

Going back further into L. F.'s history, he received a store as his inheritance from his father, Samuel J. Webb, who died with a will on Aug. 15, 1877.

Interestingly enough L.F. also became the executor of the will, and the guardian of his 4 younger brothers and sisters.

Perhaps his father had been sick before dying, and thus had written this will. I imagine he was quite happy to see (maybe attended also) the wedding between his son L. F. and Annie Elizabeth Williams on Aug. 7, 1877, just a week before Samuel died. L. F.'s mother had died just a year before, 6 months after giving birth to the last son. Thus L. F. at 20 suddenly had new wife and guardianship of 4 siblings, the youngest being just 1 year old.  Seems like Annie fit right into a new wife and family guardianship role at once. Of course since L. F. also inherited the family business, it's likely they lived in the family home.

In the midst of all these historic markers in DeWitt County, Clinton can be seen in the midst of a lot of others. It is now the location of the county seat, Cuero.

I just discovered an older census, taken in 1870, which included L. F. and his parents, residing in Clinton, DeWitt County TX. And another census in 1860 shows his father Samuel had been born in Maryland, and Ellen, his mother, had been born in NY on the Clinton, DeWitt County 1860 Texas census, when L. F. had been 3.



The next census for 1880 shows the Webb family living in Goliad TX. This was the site of earlier conflicts when Texas was trying to become free from Mexico. It also was one of the beginning places of the Chisolm Trail, to take cattle all the way to Kansas, on the hoof so to speak. There they could be loaded on cattle cars and sent to cities further east. This lasted as long as railroads hadn't made it to Texas yet.

Where's Goliad County?


This is from a 1940 map, so has many towns, but no interstate highways yet!  If you look up to the upper left side of Goliad, there's the town of Weesatche. The name changed on many maps to Huisache (the Spanish version of the name.) Weesatche was where L. F. had his nice big feed store's photo taken in 1894. And DeWitt County is just above Goliad County.

IN 1900 the family is back living in Goliad TX, in Justice Precinct 3 of Goliad County. So he may have been in Weesatche, or maybe in the town. I can't find the map of Goliad County for 1900.
Some of this map is in English, some in Spanish. But it has a copywrite date of 18?9. I'm not sure when.  See what fun delving into history can be?

OK let's look at Annie's family. She married L. F. in 1877. At that time they were guardians of his brothers and sisters as listed in the 1880 census: namely Phiny (female, age in 1880- 12) Joe (9 in 1880) D. E. (female, 6) and Sam (4). In the 1880 census we find that Annie had her first 2 children already...J. E. (James, 2) and John (3 months old, born in March of 1880).

By 1881 L. F. has been appointed postmaster for Weeshatche, and it's probable that he's running a general store already, much as he had from his father's homestead in Dewitt County. Or it's possible the county line changed where his store was located! He lists his occupation as retail grocery in the 1880 census.

After the first two boys, Annie had a daughter, Laura Mae in 1882, who died in 1887. Her second daughter was born in 1882, "Maggie" was the nickname for Marguerite Ellen Webb, who lived till 1961. She could have told me all about the sites, towns and counties, if I'd known to do this research then.

Tomas Ketch Webb was born in 1886 and lived till 1959. Next came Clara Bell Webb. born 1888. married to Fred Clyde Bruce, and lived till 1971. 

My grandfather "Bud" was born as Albert James (or Joe) Webb in 1891, and lived till 1919. He married my grandmother in 1915, and my mother was born in 1917.

Annie's last child was Leary Frances Webb, Jr. 1905-1937.

I discovered the 1900 census which had been listed for Annie Webb belonged to someone named Etta Webb...and had nothing to do with her. Fortunately L. F. was well documented as Larry F. Webb as a merchandising business, still in Precinct 3 of Goliad County, probably Weesatchee. His household consisted of Annie, his own children Maggie, Thomas, Clara and Albert J. (Bud.). They also had a 25 year old lodger/housekeeper. By then apparently the siblings had grown and gone to their own homes.

By 1910 they had moved to San Antonio, and L. F. was running a Confectionary, where perhaps one or another of his children worked. And Annie had had her "late life" child (at 42) L. F. Jr. in 1895.  Bud was living with them, age 18, was working in a real estate office. 

Great grandfather  L. F.  lived with his family in San Antonio at 130 Lewis St. for several census reports. When my grandfather, Albert Bud Webb, signed his draft card in 1917, his address was 96 Lewis St, (at least a few blocks away), which is still a small cottage.  At that time he had married my grandmother, and my mother had just been born.


2016 street view of 125 Lewis St, San Antonio, TX  Google image, with some strange coloration through my printer!  There was no 130 Lewis St left, but the curved 2 story porch on this house situated on a corner, says that it was thoughtfully created. This house now holds offices of a psychological practice.

One of the interesting things to have found, was that Annie didn't remember much information about her parents. When filling out census reports, she didn't realize they had come from Kentucky, but said her father was from Iowa, and her mother from Ohio. That was done consistently.

Annie's death certificate states she had coronary thrombosis and cirrhosis of the liver, when she died on July 8, 1942. She was 80 years old. Her husband L. F. had predeceased her in 1921, and it's impossible for me to decipher the physician's causes on his death certificate. But it was apparently fast. He was retired from his work and had reached 64 years. 

They both were interred under a nice headstone, in Mission Cemetery in San Antonio. My grandfather "Bud" is buried near them. That's the same cemetery where my mother's Miller family are also buried. 



  

Friday, November 22, 2019

Handsell House, Vienna, Dorchester MD

I've easily found more information about that house which used to be called the Webb/Handsell House.

I included it in my great grandfather's story, Samuel James Webb HERE.  And I included old information about it at that time, with this photo.

Handsell or Webb home Viena, MD

Handsell, also known as the Webb House, is a historic home located at Vienna, Dorchester County, Maryland. It is a late-18th-century Georgian-style manor house. It is a ​1 1⁄2-story brick structure over an English basement. The main facade is five bays wide and has a central entrance containing a double door flanked by windows. Handsell bears the name of a 1665 land grant, which has been in the Webb family since 1892. Handsell was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 2008. (Source: Wikipedia)

The following is all from the link I recently discovered!! restorehandsell.org

The Nanticoke Historic Preservation Alliance welcomes you to the 

Restore Handsell Project

 
The Old Brick House (in 2003)

The NHPA was formed in 2005 to purchase and restore one of Dorchester County, Maryland’s most interesting and intriguing historic structures, an old ivy-covered brick building located in the middle of what is known as “the Indiantown”.  After just a little bit of research, we knew we were on to something BIG.  As the layers of the story unfolded, through research in archives, deeds, Wills and historic family letters, a better yet not fully complete story emerged of Native people, licensed Indian traders, English settlers, British attacks, merchant activity and structural devastation.  Much of the Handsell story is STILL a mystery, but it seems each day brings a little more light to this amazing, yet previously unknown saga of the Steele family’s mark on the Eastern Shore.

Handsell House Feb. 2019

The “old brick house” at Chicone, known as Handsell, located in the Indiantown north of Vienna, Dorchester County, Maryland, was purchased by the Nanticoke Historic Preservation Alliance with a Preservation Easement from the Maryland Historic Trust.  Listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 2008, the site will be used to interpret the native American contact period with the English, the slave and later African American story and the life of all those who lived at Handsell.

There was a big to-do in October 2019, but I only discovered this link in November 2019. Just my luck!



The History of Handsell House

Handsell, an architecturally significant brick 18th century structure derives its name from the original land grant laid out for the Proprietary in 1665.  This land is historically and irrevocably linked to the early Native Americans of the Nanticoke and Chicone tribes.  Located on the Nanticoke River and Chicone Creek north of Vienna, Dorchester County, the house which stands today was built on a Native American Chicone Village site.  This site was established as an Indian Reservation by the state of Maryland in 1720, but in 1768 the Maryland legislature passed a bill authorizing the purchase of all remaining rights to Chicone Indian lands from the Nanticoke Indians.  (Ref: Eastern Shore Indians of Maryland and Virginia, by Helen C. Rountree and Thomas E. Davidson, p. 159). 

     The first patent was awarded to Thomas Taylor, at Chicone who formerly was a licensed “Indian trader” and then a high ranking military officer who was usually the person sent by the proprietor to deal with the Nanticoke “Emperor” during this period.  On July 13, 1665 he received a land grant called “Handsell” for 700 acres which encompassed the main Native American residential sites within the Chicone town lands. It is likely these were friendly patents held by Taylor to protect the “Indian towns” from other Englishmen.  During the late 17th century, Taylor was an influential county justice who often served Maryland’s provincial government as an envoy to the Nanticokes and was also the nominal landlord of the Nanticoke paramount chief since he was the owner of record for the land grant that included the site of the Nanticoke Fort at Chicone. (Ref: Eastern Shore Indians of Maryland and Virginia, by Helen C. Rountree and Thomas E. Davidson, p. 146).  Taylor served in many capacities including sheriff of Dorchester County 1675-77 and 1685.

On January 24, 1673 Quaker Leader George Fox visited the Indiantown on the Nanticoke River (Chicone Village) where the Emperor dwelt.  The interpreter mentioned here was most likely Thomas Taylor.   Here is an excerpt from his Journal:
“The twenty-fourth (Jan. 24, 1673) we went by water ten miles to the Indian town where this emperor dwelt; whom I had acquainted before with my coming, and desired to get their kings and councils together. In the morning the emperor came himself, and had me to the town; where they were generally come together, their speaker and other officers being with them, and the old empress sat among them.  They sat very grave and sober, and were all very attentive, beyond many called Christians.  I had some with me that could interpret to them. We had a very good meeting with them, and of considerable service it was; for it gave them a good esteem of truth and Friends; blessed be the Lord!”    —–A Journal of George Fox.  Philadelphia:  1831, p. 141.


In 1693, ownership of Handsell was transferred to a Christopher Nutter, an “Indian trader” who since 1670 was the interpreter for the region.  However, the Natives Americans felt the English were getting too close to their village and surrounding lands, exerting too much influence on the tribe.  In 1721 a serious conflict arose between the English and the Native Americans after Nutter’s heirs sold their land to a John Rider, who almost immediately tried to seize the 700 acres of Handsell, including the site of the Nanticoke Fort. The son of the Nanticoke emperor was among the inhabitants of the village.  Because of the ill feelings caused by the English settlers who deprived them of the land on which they had once lived and hunted, the Native Americans complained that on the very banks of the Nanticoke River some of the colonists were building their houses.  The Maryland government sided with the Native Americans and ordered John Rider off the reservation.  But by 1742 only a few Nanticokes remained on their land.

In 1753 Chicone was made a proprietary manor making the reservation the property of Lord Baltimore. By 1768 the Maryland legislature passed a bill authorizing the purchase of all remaining rights to “Chicone Indian lands” from the Nanticoke Native Americans.  In 1770 the land was deeded back to the heirs of John Rider, by then deceased.  Henry Steele and his wife Ann Billings (grand-daughter of John Rider) were deeded 484 acres of the southern half of the Handsell tract, this portion bordered by the Chicone Creek and Nanticoke River, the exact site of the Native American village.  According to Dorchester County history, Henry Steele built a “large and pretentious home on his property north of Vienna”.  It is likely that Handsell is that house and that the part of the existing house is what remains of this large home.


In 1779-1781 British privateers raided and robbed homes along the waters of the Chesapeake Bay including “Weston”, the Nanticoke River home of Governor John Henry and the town of the Vienna.  It is possible that Handsell burned at about the same time as Weston or later in a house fire.   After archaeological and physical study of the house, it has been determined that the Handsell house standing today was a victim to a fire and a partial collapse.  Today it retains a brick façade and east wall that is believed to date from the 18th c, but roof, chimney tops and interior woodwork that dates from the early 19th period, indicating it was rebuilt to a smaller scale after the fire.
Pictured here is Isaac Nevett Steele was the last of the Steele family to own Handsell. He sold it in 1837 to John Shehee, who rebuilt the house to what we see today.

Handsell remained in the Steele family until 1837 when it was sold to John Shehee. A dendrochronolgy study undertaken by the NHPA in 2010 on the pine frame members of the house revealed that this wood was cut during the winter of 1837-1838.  This indicates that John Shehee was responsible for the rebuild of the brick ruins of the original house to the present form.  Currently, more research is ongoing into the history of this family.  Shehee died in 1844 and his daughter and son-in-law, Milcah and Robert Rook remained at the house until it was sold.

In 1849, the trustee of his will sold Handsell to Jacob C. Wilson, who owned it until 1859 when it was sold to the Thompson family.  In 1892 the Thompsons sold Handsell to the Webb family who has owned the large farm in various family partnerships.  The Webb family corporation has continued to farm approximately 1400 acres of land surrounding Handsell house since that date.  The house was boarded up many years ago and has remained unoccupied for at least 60 years.

The house at Handsell with two acres and a right-of-way to the Chicone Creek were purchased by David and Carol Lewis from the Webb family, who realized the historical benefit in having the house restored.  The Webb family has also placed the entire 1,400 acres surrounding the house in Rural Legacy Conservation Easement.  Recognizing the long history of this rare property, the Lewis’ sold Handsell house in 2009 (with support from the Webb family) to the Nanticoke Historic Preservation Alliance, Inc., a non-profit dedicated to preserving Handsell house for future generations to study and explore the rich history of the land, the river and the people of this place.

Handsell is now listed on the State and National Register of Historic Places and filed with the Historic American Buildings Survey!!



In case you didn't have time to read all of this, or to go over to the link, I'll be including more about the site, as I can.  Sharing this bit of history (and some old photos) with Sepia Saturday.

They are honoring a woman I have no knowledge of, but perhaps should. So I hope someone posts info about her over there!

I'll have more next week about this historic property in Maryland which once belonged to my Webb ancestors.

Thursday, June 20, 2019

Happy birthday great-grandmother Annie Elizabeth Williams Webb

A repost again...does that make it a re-re-post?

It's Great grandmother Annie E. Webb's birthday on June 20, so happy birthday great grandmother!


Let's look at the siblings of my grandfather who I never knew, Albert (Bud) Webb, (1891-1919). Bud was the next to youngest of 8 children of Leary/Larry (Leroy) 1857-1921) and Annie Elizabeth Williams Webb (1862-1942).


The photo below shows the Webb feed store, including some gentlemen standing up high.  Weesatche Texas was formerly spelled with the Hispanic form, Huisache.


There's also a blog about my great grandfather, Leroy (Larry, Leary) Webb and his family.

I have looked a bit more at Bud Webb's older brother, John Webb (1880-1938) shared in a repost earlier.

Great grandfather Leroy (or L. F. perhaps) lived with his family in San Antonio at 130 Lewis St. for several census reports. When my grandfather, Albert Bud Webb, signed his draft card in 1917, his address was 96 Lewis St, which is still a small cottage.  At that time he had married my grandmother, and my mother had just been born.



2016 street view of 125 Lewis St, San Antonio, TX  Google image, with some strange coloration through my printer!  There was no 130 Lewis St left (in 2018 on Google) which would have been across the street, but the curved 2 story porch on this house situated on a corner, says that it was thoughtfully created and might have been of the same era. This house now holds offices of a psychological practice.

Grandpa Bud's oldest brother, James Eugene Webb, (1878-1927) married in 1904 to Alvina (Ollie) Albrecht Webb, who had been born in Texas in 1885, and lived until 1971. She had a 4th grade education, and her father Wilhelm came from Germany, but her mother Louise Alwine Dorbritz Albrecht was born in Texas. Ollie was one of 18 children according to the list at Ancestry.  But she and J. E. only had one child.  

Many German immigrants settled in the area of West Central Texas, part of the Mexican and then early Texan effort to have settlers come and make new communities in the mid nineteenth century.

So after James E, the next son born was John Webb (as mentioned in previous posts.)  He and Lizzie had 3 daughters.


Annie and L. F. Webb had a little girl Laura, who only lived 5 years.  Next birth for Annie and L. F.  was Marguerite Ellen Webb Carroll (1883-1951). Her husband also had his name spelled Carrel, and apparently was born in Arkansas.  Marguerite and David William Carroll  had one girl that I know of. He was buried next to my grandfather Bud in the Webb section of the cemetery (see below).

The next youngest Webb was Thomas Ketch Webb, (1886-1959).  When he died in 1959 he was listed as owner of a small cafe in San Antonio.  In 1930 he owned a "Flour and Feed" store. At the census of 1940 he and his wife lived with her parents, and his father-in-law owned a cigar stand and Tom worked for him.  At age 56 he registered for the draft for WW II in 1942.  His wife was Lenora Augusta Bilhartz (Bichortz) Webb, (1896-1972) with either German or Swiss parents.  They had no children. I like knowing that they both returned from Rio de Janeiro in 1947 on a ship, which records include his Brazilian visa and photo.



Tom Ketch Webb 1947

The next Webb child was Clara Belle Webb Bruce, ( 1888-1971) who married Fred C. Bruce (1881-1972).  They had no children. Fred also was a proprietor of a cafe, in the 1930 census.  He lived a year beyond his wife.

And the baby of the family, born in 1905, was L. F. Webb, Jr.   He and his wife, Evelin Lafortune Webb, lived with the senior Webb family in their house (at 130 Lewis St.) in the San Antonio Directory of 1929.   There's also a Social Security claim (undated) after L. F.'s death in 1937 with a daughter Evelin listed, who died in 1999, born 1927.  


But there's a change I just noticed.  After L. F., (a labor foreman for the Missouri Pacific railroad,) died in 1937, Evelin Lafortune Webb married again. I don't have the date, but the census of 1940 shows her tucked into the Shults family living in "rural Beaxar County TX"

So it looks as if her next husband adopted her daughter Evelin, and she became Evelin Shults...and whether others of the family had been from a former marriage of his, or they were born to Evelin Sr., there were 5 children then.  And that wasn't the last of Mrs. Webb Shults.  Her husband Lt. Ray Shults of the US Air Force died in 1980, and she remarried in 1985 to Alphonse Paul Donaubauer, whom she also outlived.  I don't know if she died in 1997, and the Social Security lagged behind, or if she lived until 2000, when Social Security listed her death.

I can only share what's available on Ancestry, after all.  So I'm adding the one child of  L. F. Jr and his wife, Evelin Webb, namely Evelin Webb Shuts, giving the Webb grandparents (L.F. and Annie Webb) 7 grandchildren, one of whom was my mother.


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Saturday, June 15, 2019

Granddad "Bud" Webb for Father's Day

Father's Day this year, I decided to do a repost about Granddad Bud.

Albert "Bud" James (Joe) Webb, July 30, 1891

From my mother's photo album, showing a couple of portrait photos that may have been inside lockets.  She had been only 2 when he died.


In the 1900 census of Goliad, Texas, he was 8 years old, living with parents Annie E. (age 37) and Larry F. Webb (age 42), who had been married for 22 years.  Others in the household included a 16 year old sister, Maggie, a 13 year old brother, Thomas, and an 11 year old sister Clara.  The census said his father had been born in Texas, and his father's father was from Maryland and his mother from Ohio.  His mother, Annie E. Williams had been born in Missouri, and her father was born was born in Kentucky.  Larry F. Webb has as his occupation " head" of (inscription is slightly hard to read) "General Merch" which I think would be a general store. There was also a "lodger" in the home, 25 year old Katy Ayers, whose occupation was house servant.

I always look at the original census data, because otherwise I would have missed seeing the next household listed was headed by James E. Webb, age 21, living with his brother, John L. Webb, age 20.  Since their parents were born in the same places as Annie and Larry Webb, I believe these were elder brothers of Albert.  James was a bookkeeper at the time, and John as salesman.  They were born in DeWitt County, Weesatche, Texas.  

Bud Webb at 18 (in the Census of 1910) was working in a real estate office in San Antonio.  His father owned and operated a "confectionery."  The family still had a servant who lived with them.  Incidentally, my records show Bud having been born in "Huisache, Texas" which is a Hispanic way to spell Weesatche.  Apparently this was difficult for the Anglos to sound out, so they phonetically altered the spelling.

When something happened in 1894, this photo of Bud's father's Store in Weesatche commemorates it with  the friends and employees.  Larry F. Webb himself outlived his son by many years, dying in 1921. So perhaps this was when the family moved to San Antonio since it says "In Memory of..."



The San Antonio City Directory in 1910 listed the Webbs who lived at the same address, 130 Lewis, and the first alphabetically was Albert (Bud).  He was a solicitor for Conness Realty.  The other Webbs were his sister, Miss Clara Webb, and his parents Leary F. and Anna Webb (he running the Confectionery on San Pedro Av. SW) 

Albert and my grandmother, Mozelle Miller, married Aug 7, 1915, in San Antonio.  He was 24, and she was a month shy of her 17th birthday.

Albert's draft card for World War I, dated June 15, 1917, lists his birthday but a year younger in 1892. And maybe the typist had some problems, because he's listed as Albert Joe not James.  (He may have prefered that name, since he had an older brother named James.) He was living now at 95 Lewis St. and proclaims he has a wife and child.  The registration just says he's "tall" and medium build, blue eyes, light colored hair, slightly bald. He just signed the card A. J. Webb.  He never went to the war.

So what killed him?  Apparently not the Influenza epidemic.  My mother's story as I grew up, was that a bad extension cord on Christmas lights electrocuted him.  What's wrong with this picture?  He died Sept. 15, 1919, not in December.  Maybe there was a bad electrical cord, and my mother was reminded of it when we strung lights at Christmas, and I've blended the time she shared about it into my own rendition.  Early electric wiring was certainly not that good.  Whatever took this young man's life, my mother had to be told about him by her mother and her aunts and grandmother.  I don't think the Webbs had much contact with her throughout her life. His death certificate does say "electrical, not at business."

I also remember her saying that her grandmother, Annie Elizabeth Williams Webb, had been an heiress to the Woolworth fortune.  And there was some connection with the Little Church Around the Corner in New York City.  My sister may have found out more about these stories, and I never heard what they were.

For many years my genealogy records gave Joe as his middle name, but his death certificate says Albert James Webb.  Perhaps either one could be right.

Here's a picture of his brother, another salesman (according to his 1938 death certificate), John Leroy Webb.  (Apparently Larry was spelled that way, or Leary by these Webb gentlemen.)

John Leroy Webb

Webb plot San Antonio TX.



"He Is Not Dead, He Is Just Away," Inscription on grave marker (Albert J. Webb 1891-1919) 
(David William Carroll was buried next to him, his sister Mattie Webb Carroll's husband.)
Marker is in Mission Burial Park South, San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas, Plot: Block 2, Masonic Garden 
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Thursday, June 13, 2019

The Webbs - some documents and photos

Great Uncle John Leroy Webb and Grandfather "Bud" Webb, a repost
John Leroy Webb

I am sharing a photo of Great Uncle John Webb (1880-1938)  What do you read from this photo? At least a dashing student. I have no idea when it was taken.

My mother's father was his brother...Albert Bud Webb (1891-1919).  They were 2 of the 8 children born in Huisache (or the Anglicized version that is now on maps) Weesatche, Texas, in Goliad County.
Albert Bud Webb (my grandfather)

Here's Bud's draft card from June, 1917, when my mother was 2 months old.  It was apparently enough to keep him from going to the war.

Registering for the Draft in World War I
(Source: Ancestry.com - not my relations!)


But unfortunately Grandfather Bud was killed by an electrical accident (bad wiring and being electrocuted) in 1919.  My mother remember it as being Christmas lights, but it happened in September, so it must have been some other wiring in the home. His business listing on his draft card said Restaurant, self employed. His death certificate said he was a restaurant proprietor, and the electrical accident was not occupational.

But back to Uncle John. He was older by 11 years than Bud.  His draft card in September, 1918 states he was a Postmaster and Clerk, for a mercantile business, partly owned by the Webb family. But he was already 39 by the time he registered for the draft.

JLW&ELH
Uncle John and Aunt Lizzy Webb, 1901

Uncle John's wife was Elizabeth (Lizzie) Hohn Webb (1883-1960) born in NY perhaps, and had parents born in  France.  They had 3 daughters, Anne Lorraine Webb Cross (1902-1949), Hazel Marguerite Webb Doughty Hinds (1908-1970), and Pearl Adelle Webb Hammerle (1918-2005).

In the 1900 Census, John was living with his 2-years-older brother, James, and listed himself as a salesman, while his brother was a bookkeeper. They lived next door (or perhaps in a building separately built on the same property) as their parents in Goliad County, TX. By the 1910 census he was living with a wife and his first 2 daughters, lists himself as a Postmaster, again in the same area of Goliad County, TX.

Between 1918 and 1920 his family had moved to San Antonio, TX, and he gave his occupation on the census as a traveling salesman of dry goods. By 1930 the census gives his sales as hosiery. He was living with his wife, now listed as born in Texas, and 2 daughters.  At this time the census tells us Aunt Lizzy's father had been born in Alcase-Lorraine, and her mother in NY.

So why go through all these details?  Well, my sons might like to know these 2 Webb men were both listed as tall on their draft cards, and having blue eyes, and light hair.  Granddad Webb had slightly balding hair in his 20s, while his older brother at 39 had light hair.



And since these are the genes which come from great grandfathers and uncles, it's nice to see that they could have lived a fairly long life for that generation.   Great Great Uncle John did die from stomach hemorrhage, at age 58.  With new medicines which treat ulcers, he probably could have lived much longer.  And working with electricity is much safer these days, as my son well knows!

Thanks for reading through all these family details.  I love pursuing the census and draft cards to find what the actual interviewer put down, even if it is different sometimes than it was on another one.  That's what makes genealogy fun for me
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Tuesday, June 11, 2019

The Williams tale

People who fought in early wars in the United States didn't always receive payment in dollars.  Often they received a land grant for their services.

So Richard Frederick Williams (1792-1860) apparently was a Private in Capt. William Wades company, 2nd Regiment, (Jennings') Kentucky volunteers.  He was also my great times 3 grandfather on my mother's side.

War of 1812 Service Records:
Name: Richard Williams
Company: 2 RIGEMENT (JENNINGS') KENTUCKY VOLS.
Rank - Induction: PRIVATE
Rank - Discharge: PRIVATE
Roll Box: 228
Microfilm Publication: M602
(From: U.S., War of 1812 Service Records, 1812-1815 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1999. 

Widow's pension request from Nancy Williams

Between 1830 when he was on the Pulaski County KY Census and 1833 when his son John D. was born, he and his family moved to Missouri. His own father died in 1831. Richard had been second to oldest in a family with 9 children.

Another cousin (on Ancestry, not sure of our relationship) posted this:
"Richard and Nancy and their six children arrived in
Montgomery County, Missouri, in 1832, based on 
land records and birthplace of children listed in 

censuses. The 1840 Montgomery County census 

lists a Richard Williams, believed to be our 

Richard, with four males and eight females, 

living in Prairie township."


Richard Frederick Williams received 4 different land grants there from the US government (all copied on Ancestry) on different dates. 

Richard Williams land grant 1835



Richard Williams land grant 1838





Richard Williams 1839 land grant


Richard Williams land grant 1851




Google map showing some of Richard Williams' land in Missouri.





Sunday, August 5, 2018

Webb family of Texas

NOTE: a repost from my other blog...gathering the more recent blog posts into one place for access and organization!

I would like to shift gears, and go look at my mother's family again, which I haven't talked about for a while.

Today I'm going to look at the siblings of my grandfather who I never knew, Albert (Bud) Webb, (1891-1919). Bud was the next to youngest of 8 children of Leroy 1857-1921) and Annie Elizabeth Williams Webb (1862-1942).

It's also Mrs. Webb's birthday on June 20, so happy birthday great grandmother!
And this former post talks about Annie Williams Webb's ancestors who traveled west to Texas.
HERE is a former blog I wrote about Granddad Bud.

The photo below shows the Webb feed store, including some gentlemen standing up high (which is my link to this week's Sepia Saturday = see below!)

Here is a blog about his father, Leroy (Larry, Leary) Webb and his family.

I have looked a bit more at Bud Webb's older brother, John Webb (1880-1938) Here,
and HERE.

Great grandfather Leroy (or L. F. perhaps) lived with his family in San Antonio at 130 Lewis St. for several census reports. When my grandfather, Albert Bud Webb, signed his draft card in 1917, his address was 96 Lewis St, which is still a small cottage.  At that time he had married my grandmother, and my mother had just been born.

2016 street view of 125 Lewis St, San Antonio, TX  Google image, with some strange coloration through my printer!  There was no 130 Lewis St left (if it ever existed), but the curved 2 story porch on this house situated on a corner, says that it was thoughtfully created. This house now holds offices of a psychological practice.

Grandpa Bud's oldest brother, James Eugene Webb, (1878-1927) married in 1904 to Alvina (Ollie) Albrecht Webb, who had been born in Texas in 1885, and lived until 1971. She had a 4th grade education, and her father Wilhelm came from Germany, but her mother Louise Alwine Dorbritz Albrecht was born in Texas. Ollie was one of 18 children according to the list at Ancestry.  But she and J. E. only had one child.  So that's just 2 grandchildren of the Webbs, so far.

Many German immigrants settled in the area of West Central Texas, part of the Mexican and then early Texan effort to have settlers come and make new communities in the mid nineteenth century.

So after James E, the next son born was John Webb (as mentioned in 2 previous posts.)  He had 3 daughters, bringing grandchildren total to 5.

Then Annie and L. F. Webb had a little girl Laura, who only lived 5 years.  Next birth for Annie and L. F.  was Marguerite Ellen Webb Carroll (1883-1951). Her husband also had his name spelled Carrel, and apparently was born in Arkansas, so probably wasn't related to the Alabama Carrolls who also were on my family tree...though it's always a possibility.  Marguerite and David William Carroll  had one girl that I know of. (Grandchildren total now 6.)

The next youngest Webb was Thomas Ketch Webb, (1886-1959).  When he died in 1959 he was listed as owner of a small cafe in San Antonio.  In 1930 he owned a "Flour and Feed" store. At the census of 1940 he and his wife lived with her parents, and his father-in-law owned a cigar stand and Tom worked for him.  At age 56 he registered for the draft for WW II in 1942.  His wife was Lenora Augusta Bilhartz (Bichortz) Webb, (1896-1972) with either German or Swiss parents.  They had no children. I like knowing that they both returned from Rio de Janeiro in 1947 on a ship, which records include his Brazilian visa and photo.


The next Webb child was Clara Belle Webb Bruce, ( 1888-1971) who married Fred C. Bruce (1881-1972).  Again, they had no children. Fred also was a proprietor of a cafe, in the 1930 census.  He lived a year beyond his wife.

And the baby of the family, born in 1905, was L. F. Webb, Jr.   He and his wife, Evelin Lafortune Webb, lived with the senior Webb family in that house (above at 130 Lewis St.) in the San Antonio Directory of 1929.   There's also a Social Security claim (undated) after L. F.'s death in 1937 with a daughter Evelin listed, who died in 1999, born 1927.  But there's a change I just noticed.  After L. F., (a labor foreman for the Missouri Pacific railroad,) died in 1937, Evelin Lafortune Webb married again. I don't have the date, but the census of 1940 shows her tucked into the Shults family living in "rural Beaxar County TX"

So it looks as if her next husband adopted her daughter Evelin, and she became Evelin Shults...and whether others of the family had been from a former marriage of his, or they were born to Evelin Sr., there were 5 children then.  And that wasn't the last of Mrs. Webb Shults.  Her husband Lt. Ray Shults of the US Air Force died in 1980, and she remarried in 1985 to Alphonse Paul Donaubauer, whom she also outlived.  I don't know if she died in 1997, and the Social Security lagged behind, or if she lived until 2000, when Social Security listed.

I can only share what's available on Ancestry, after all.  So I'm adding the one child of  L. F. Jr and his wife, Evelin Webb, namely Evelin Webb Shuts, giving the Webb family 7 grandchildren, one of whom was my mother.

Sepia Saturday's offering this week show us...

SEPIA SATURDAY 424 : SATURDAY 23 JUNE 2018