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Showing posts with label George Elmore Rogers Sr.. Show all posts
Showing posts with label George Elmore Rogers Sr.. Show all posts

Friday, April 10, 2020

Rev. Elijah Rogers' siblings

Just now I've looked to see who else was in the "patriarch's" family, children of Henry Rogers, Sr. (1741-1794) and his wife Elizabeth Lankford Rogers (1743-1787).

First I'll just list them in order, with dates, as they stand on my Ancestry tree. These could change as I look at hints on my tree, which often happens as I find any records. But going this far back has limitations, especially for a family that originated in Virginia, and most of whom moved into western North Carolina which became east Tennessee in their lifetimes.

James Rogers (1760–1842)

BIRTH 2 JULY 1760  Culpepper, Virginia

DEATH 1842  Monroe, Mississippi


George Rogers (1764-1858)

BIRTH 6 FEB 1764  Somerville, Fauquier, Virginia

DEATH 18 NOV 1858  Sinking Creek, Wayne, Kentucky


Bathsheba Rogers Amonette (1764-unknown)

BIRTH 1765  Virginia

DEATH Washington Co Tenn


Josiah Rogers (1766-1834)

BIRTH 1766  Franklin, Virginia

DEATH 12 AUG 1834  Sevierville, Sevier County, Tennessee


Henry Rogers, Jr. (1767-1841)

BIRTH 1767  Fauquier, Virginia

DEATH 11 MAY 1841  Sevierville, Sevier, Tennessee

Martha Rogers Cannon (1770-1844)

BIRTH 1770  Virginia

DEATH 1844  Sevier, Tennessee


Elijah Rogers, Rev. (774-18421)

BIRTH MAY 1774  Fauquier, Virginia

DEATH 11 MAY 1841  Sevierville, Sevier, Tennessee
*my great times 4 grandfather

Ah ha, as I read through these aunts and uncles, as well as Rev. Elijah Rogers, I found some startling information on Henry Rogers, Jr.  The tree as it stood when I started looking at it, gave him as wife, Catharine Clack Rogers, who was the wife of Rev. Elijah Rogers. Of course his wife could have been  another woman, who I think was mixed up as to whether she was Rev. Elijah's wife Catharine, or another woman named Beulah Fairfax or Rhoda Clack. And which record was used to cite her name as some combination and as Henry Jr.s wife? An application to Sons of the American Revolution...giving Rev. Elijah Rogers and his father Henry Sr. It doesn't even say Henry was married to Catherine. But with our web ability strained today, I can't even read the original over on Ancestry. I won't be able to research this mistake, because I've removed Henry Jr. from my family tree.

And the Ancestry trees that name her as Henry's wife, also give Henry and Beulah four of Elijah and Catharine's children! There they are, which is totally incorrect. 

And the worst part of the misleading information on Henry Jr.s name, is giving him the same date of death as Rev. Elijah Rogers, May 11, 1841. Something is just not right here!

My cousin, Patricia Rogers, is a member of the DAR, Daughters of the American Revolution. I just checked her tree, and Henry Jr. doesn't have any wife or children listed. Oh, indeed, when I looked a second time, there isn't even a son of Henry Sr. named Henry Jr. She must be checking the same things I am today!

I will share the typed copy from the Rogers Family Bible, transcribed by my grandfather, George E. Rogers, Sr. 

OK...I found that it only indicates Rev. Elijah married to Catharine Clack Rogers...and it doesn't include any of Rev. Elijah's siblings. So these were added to Ancestry from another source. 

And I also noted that a cousin of my grandfather (who still lived in Sevier County TN) was the source of some of the details that my grandfather typed up for his sons. Also many of the details that were included came from a genealogist who was hired to look into our ancestors. Nothing wrong with that, if only she had given her source materials. The ones that are cited from "Virkus" are dependent upon ...wait for it... the family trees submitted by descendants so they could be part of the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR.) I've often found mistakes in these entries.

For now, I will go with my cousin and move poor Henry Jr. into a questionable status. Rather than deleting him, I'm just removing him as a child of Henry Sr. and his wife.

I love looking for more information, and finding things I may have forgotten over the years. Who knows...






My grandfather mentioned the Rogers Family Bible had been with his cousin Myron Ross. I know they visited sometimes. But I believe the last I know of the possession of the Bible was another cousin, a Gibbs I think. 

Monday, February 18, 2019

Poppy's Birthday Party

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Week 8 (February 18-24): Family Photo

The photo of the most family members that comes to mind is this one for my Poppy's 72 birthday.




Gummy (Ada Rogers) wrote everyone's names on the back.  

For a long time I thought this must have been Poppy's 70th.  But apparently it was his 72th birthday party.  The cincher was that there's my little sis, Mary Beth in the front row.  And she's definitely closer to 3-4 rather than just 18 months old, having been born in Feb. '46.

My Poppy, George Elmore Rogers Sr. has been honored on his birthdates before in my blogs, Here and HERE.    You might notice in the first of these former blogs I was sure it was his 70th being celebrated.  But it's possible there are photos from 2 different birthday groups...it was a good reason in the summertime to gather at the grandparent's home.

So here's a tipped over version showing the list of people!




Standing
Dad
"Me" (Gummy, Ada Rogers)
Bill W - behind him (Bill Winslow)
Jane (Joan?)
Mrs. Herman (Virginia's mother)
Virginia 
Frank
Geo. Sanford
Chauncey (to the back)
Mataley (my mother)

Seated
Zulie (Zulie Winslow Semans, daughter of Aunt Jim))
Aunt Jim (Stella Swasey Winslow, Gummy's sister)

Chidren
Billy S. (Zulie's son Billy Semans)
Sandy Wilson
John Barry Wilson
Suzie S.      Claudette
Barbara, Mary B.  Sandra

The people I recognize in the photo are myself (Barbara) and my sister, Mary Beth, my cousins Claudette and Sandra, my grandparents, (me and Dad) a.k.a. Ada and George Rogers Sr., Uncle Chauncey Rogers, and my mother Mataley Rogers.  My dad was taking the photo.  Incidentally, since you don't know which kid was which, Claudette is kneeling in the front with my little sis Mary Beth, and I'm right behind Claudette with my chin on my hand. Sandra is the blond also kneeling in the front, looking to her sister Claudette who is to her left. We all look like we'd had a Toni home perm recently!

And I don't have time/energy to figure out who the people were who were probably cousins or something that I didn't know!  But Aunt Zulie is one that caught my eye, so I want to see what her relation to me might have been. She's a brunette next to Aunt Jim, and I don't know for sure her relation either.  (No Barb. Go fix dinner, do not go into the rabbit hole after your ancestors.)

Wrong...a half hour later and I'd found the Wilsons were Poppy's sister's family, while the Winslows were Gummy's sister's family.

And I had another hour after dinner to find that Aunt Jim was really Gummy's sister, Stella Winslow. (How that happened I'd love to know!) Zulie Winslow Semans, who I did recognize was her daughter.

There was one son of Zulie, who would have been around 10 years old, Billy.
I don't know yet about Sandy and John Wilson, other children in the Wilson family.

Bill W was probably Billy Winslow, who would be brother of Zulie. Perhaps my ancestry records are wrong, but Gummy says he was with Jane, and I remember hearing her called Jane, but my records say her name was Joan.  Oh those Texans!

OK, George Sandford was really George S. Wilson, husband of Virginia Heuerman Wilson, who was standing by her mother.

Who was Frank?  He was Zulie's husband, Francis Semans. And he has 3 other wives (at different times) also listed on his ancestry site.  Busy gentleman, eh?  I don't mean to belittle having 4 wives, but that's not what I planned to spend my evening figuring out.

I give up.  This has been fun. And if I ever have time, I'll try to weave these people's lives through some semblance of organization.  In this brief time I found on Ancestry that Virginia H. Wilson was listed as having been married to George Sanford Wilson, and another George with a different middle name.  So there may be some records having to do with the wrong George Wilson. At least I know Sanford was a family name, and there is his picture with my family.

Hope you have a great week! See you next week, same time, same place (does that sound like a radio sign-off?)