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Thursday, June 7, 2018

Some of the history of Logan's Chapel, Blount County, "Haggard Place" TN

James Lucian McCamy was Ida Mullendore's husband (I spoke about her yesterday.)

On the listing for his burial in 1915, his occupation is given as postman.  Ida continued to list herself as his widow in several city Directories, including children.

This quote contains "Parts of Memorial Day Talk made by James Lucian McCamy at Logan's Chapel May 20, 1911" (edited to include ancestors and McCamy information)


Logan's Chapel, Haggard Place, Tennessee (Posted to Ancestry by "MMD1969" on Jan 11, 2008
"Today we want to turn the pages of time back one hudred years and see who lived in and went to make up this neighborhood. But who were they? Who lived here? Well there were the Logans, the Kennedys, the Stones, the Kinnamans, the Duncans, the McCamys, the Cavins, the Greens, the Hafleys, the Shavers, the Davis's, the Kidds, the Newmans, the Julians, the Brakebills, the Dupe's, the Mayes's, the Martins, the Adneys, the Reeders, the Plumlees, the Porters, the Wolfs, the Wheelers, the Vineyards, the Covingtons, at Haggard Place.
"George and Rebecca Julian lived where Jas. McCamy now lives . They reared a family there; Isham, the eldest son became a Methodist Minister and lived at the old Allen Strick or Garner place just across the river from where Andy Davis now lives; leaving there he settled in Bradley County where he lived and preached until he became so old and feeble he would have to sit down and preach; finally dyng at the advance age of 88. His father and mother died just 15 days apart. George on Feb. 5 1845, and Rebecca on Feb. 20 1845, with a disease called Black Tongue. Their remains rest just back of this church in that little stone house. The date of their birth could not be obtained and does not appear on the slab at their heads. Neither do we know just when they came here, but it was as far back as 1820 and perhaps further. Their descendants are all gone except the great grand children descending from the marriage of their daughter Sallie to James McCamy, but Bradley County is full of them."
"We do not know when the Martins came from Virginia here, but they were among the first settlers of this country. Warner Martin and his wife Martha, or Patty as she was called, first settled at the Wm. Hall place or where Jno. Adney now lives. He built the first mill in this whole country, and it ground only corn. It stood just below the ford of the branch at his home. Some of the old beams with their logs castings were there as late as 1865. There they reared a family of four boys that we know of. They were Peter, Joshua, John and Leonard. These boys were sent to West Point to college and educated, three of them made lawyers and Jno. made a farmer and miller. The lawyers went early in life to Alabama where they plied their profession and where they dies. One being a judge who dropped dead on the bench after pronouncing the sentence of death on a fellow man but a murderer. John, with his father entered the entire valley around them, making in all 1410 acres of land which was very fertile and which had a very fine growth of timber on it. John married Sarah Swan whose mother was a Buckingham, and he built down the creek where Willie DeLozier now lives. This house was built half at a time, the first half about the year 1806. Their first child Warner was born 1808. William in 1810 then Henry and Leonard and John Frank, Lucian, seven boys and four girls Maria, Martha, Lizzie and Sarah; of these only Jno., Jr. made a farmer. Wm. Henry and Leonard read Law, while Frank made a wanderer. Lucian died at the age of 21. John married Isabella Porter, daughter of Capt. Jas. Porter and had two girls, Florence and Frankie; the latter died when only a child while Florence married Wm. A. Coulter but dies without any children. Warner Sr. died and was buried at Eusebia because that was the only church and burying ground in this country. His widow lived at the old home alone with her 30 odd negroes until she was old. Then went to her sons in Alabama where she died. That branch, I suppose, is still called the old Patty Martin branch. Patty was a member of the Eusebia church, and used to take her little granddaughter, John's Martha, behind her on a horse and ride to church every preaching Sunday, a distance of five miles. That little Martha was my mother (Elijah Roger McCamy's grandmother) and would have been 93 years old had she lived until now, being born in 1818. But she died in 1899. She wasburied here where she had lived nearly all her life. John built a modern mill a few hundred yards above where the present Sanderson Mill now stands. This mill ground wheat as well as corn, and also had a saw mill attached. Of course it was a sash saw which worked up and down, the circular saw being of modern times. John Sr. died about the time the last half of his house was built which was about 1835. His widow remained there until the close of the Civil War when she sold to Thos. Sanderson in 1866 and went to Alabama where several of her children had preceded her. There she died and was buried. The only representatives of that large family left in this neighborhood is Mrs. Sallie McBath, and the only ones in Tenn. aside from Mrs. McBath is her nrother Jas. L. McCamy (father of Elijah Rogers McCamy) and Mrs. Jno. E. Hood of Knoxville, who was a granddaughter of William. Jno. Jr. and his family are buried here, and Tho. Sr. at Eusebia. After Jno. Jr. died, which was in 1861, his widow married Geo. W. Henry, and reared three boys, Chas. Geo. R. and Willie. Chas. & Wille died just as they were reaching manhood, leaving only Geo. R. or Tobe as he is called, to represent the Porters and the Henrys. Tobe owns both Homesteads. That is, the Jno. C. Martin place and the Capt. Jas. Porter place, but lives in Maryville.
Thos. Sanderson was an Englishman and reared four children. Edward who is in the West.Barbara married Jno. Cunningham and dies  in Kansas recently. Annie married Geo. Brakebille and is the only one left in this neighborhood. Nellie married Lee McCampbell and lives in Knoxville. Mr. Sanderson and his wife died at Little River Station on the K. & A. R. R. and are buried in Knoxville. He sold the mill property to Mr. Beeson who diesd there as did his wife, and both are buried here. Their children have all gone.....
Wm. and Mary McCamy kept a public house and stock lot at what is now the Roex or Barbson ford of Little River. People traveled by wagon and on horse-back; they also drove horses and mules south and hence the necessity of stopping places. They settled there about the year 1820, reared a family of 7 boys and 1 girl. The boys were John, Tim, Jas., Robt, Sam Arthur, and Major. Jane was the girl. Jas. (Elijah Rogers McCamy's great grandad) married Sarah Julian and Robt. married her twin sister Martha. Jas. became owner of the old home and reared a family of 4 boys and 6 girls. The boys were Wm. Samuel (E.R's Grandady) Robt., and Jas. H. The girls were Rebecca, Martha, Sarah Ann, Neoma and Sophronia, twins, and Narcissa.  Wm. and Robt. still live in Murray Co. Ga., Wm. being 87 years old. Martha, Mrs. Dr. Morton and Narcissa live in Knoxville while Sophronia lives in Texas. All the others are dead. John married Elizabeth Shaver and made his home at the old Julian place where his eldest son Jas. still lives. All the other children, numbering in all, 6, are dead except Wm. who lives near Chattanooga, and Lizzie has been an inmate in Lyon's View asylum for 23 years. All the other McCamy's went south, maily to Georgia and there are only left in this neighborhood Jas (E.R's father) son of Samuel, and Mrs. Sallie McBath to represent those several large families. Rebecca married Josias Gamble and left three boys and four girls, all living in or near Maryville. The boys are Alex, Dr. Andy and Hon. Moses. Mrs. Dr. McTeer of Maryville is a daughter of Martha Morton. Samuel (E.R's grandaddy) married Martha Martin and lived on a part of the old Martin Farm where Has. Harris now lives until he dies in 1864 leaving a widow and 2 children, Jas. (E.R's dad) of Knoxville and Mrs. Sallie McBath of Bank.

If you know of anyone who came from these roots, they might like to know what Mr. McCamy had to say about them...though of course it's not documented proof that these are correct.

I am amused that I said these are not documented proof, because when I look at the parents of James Lucian, the Ancestry trees have a couple of choices.  The Samuel and Martha that are mentioned in the last paragraph by J. L. at the 1911 Memorial Day service at Logan's Chapel abovve, are not in agreement with other trees.  

But I'm not going to go chasing further on this quest.  I want to go back to (Elijah) Rogers McCamy, who had 2 children in Dallas Texas just around the same time I was born.  So there are some dangling ancestors here.  After all, J.L. was the husband of my 2nd cousin, 3 times removed! 

 I tend to think there are some discrepancies in the account given above, but perhaps it's because J. L speaks of himself in the last line as one of two children (E.R.'s dad) left with widow of Samuel when he died in 1864.  But why would he speak of anyone incorrectly?

The whole speech and article are also included now in my Ancestry tree.  http://www.tngenweb.org/blount/1911-history-of-logan%e2%80%99s-chapel/

 

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